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enandalusiskhund
04-12-2016, 06:45 PM
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The thing that strikes me the most this, perhaps the fourth, time I see this marvellous masterpiece of batshit insane depravity, are the small things. For instance the sounds. The squeaking of Billing's shoes, the wind howling outside the claustrophobic skyscraper where he works his Kafkaesque job, the constant typewriter clatter inside despite the fact we never see anyone working except Billing (stamp, signature, stamp, signature), the screams of the baby when Biling plays with his Märklin railroad. The fact that there's a clock ticking in the background of one of the sex scenes! I see the small gestures that make Billing's character so memorable and complex. The bureaucratic stiffness of his appearence, the way he constantly corrects his glasses, his nervous smile. The acting of Andreas Bellis (cinematographer for Vibenius on Thriller: A Cruel Picture, a film Vibenius called "a deathly commercial crap film") is nothing short of outstandning, even when his dick is in someone's mouth.

Yes, Breaking Point is a masterpiece. A cinematic experience that will have you gasping for air from the sheer craziness of it all. There is NOTHING like it in the history of cinema. The tagline Pornographic Thriller ("Pornografisk thriller", from the beautiful Swedish poster with artwork by genius Hans Arnold) sums it up pretty well. It's pornography and it's a thriller. But are you supposed to jerk off to it? In that case Vibenius certainly doesn't make it easy for us, what with the strangeness of the sex scenes and all. The unsettling soundtrack. The way Bellis' co-actresses behave like corpses or mannequins during intercourse, despite the fact that 89% of the female population actually want to be raped (it's true, I saw it on tv!), sometimes staring right into the camera with emotionless eyes, obviously there only to satisfy Billing's fantasies. And only IN Billing's fantasies? The weird society and civilization critique that runs through it for some unknown purpose. When you think things can't get any more strange Billing swats a fly off his erect cock using a rubber band. And just wait for the female masturbation by Volvo stick shift, implied paedophilia, gun in the vagina, Billing tricking a female co-worker into drinking his semen, and a dozen other insane things that I've forgotten about.

And still Breaking Point is not just a crazy porn film, even if it certainly is that also. It is actually a damn well crafted piece of cinematic brilliance, Vibenius' masterpiece and one out of the maybe five greatest Swedish genre films ever (the others of course being Thriller, Man on the Roof, Dirty Fingers and... another one).

It's so sad that Vibenius seems to be extremely difficult to work with, judging by the Synapse incident and the fact that he apparently is asking BIG MONEY for the rights to releasing Thriller in HD, and that we'll because of this never will get to see Breaking Point pressed on disc. The VHS rip that's out there looks quite good for what it is, but this is a film that deserves the treatment and care one of the boutique labels could give it.

What do you guys think of Breaking Point?

Mark C.
04-12-2016, 07:58 PM
Wish I could watch it, I'm still holding out for some kind of media release. Hopefully Blu-ray.

JLG
04-13-2016, 07:44 AM
i'm waiting for this one too.

saw a few minutes of it on youtube a while back. think a link was posted on dvdmaniacs or avmaniacs.

would like to see this Pornographic Thriller

sukebanboy
04-13-2016, 08:13 AM
I have never even heard of this movie.:blush:

But now I am as eager as the rest of you all to get my hands on a decent copy....

cmeffa
04-13-2016, 08:58 AM
I saw pieces of it online years ago, including the penis fly scene you describe. I 've wanted to see the entire film all the way through, as I am a big fan of Thriller A Cruel Picture, but just haven't gotten around to it. I liked it from the scenes I saw years back and I need to get around to viewing it all the way through. Did you see Thriller and did you like this film more?

enandalusiskhund
04-13-2016, 10:47 AM
Don't hold your breath regarding an official release of this. Vibenius is apparently notoriously hard to work with. I heard from a Swedish fan that some company was trying to get to release thriller on BD, but that Vibenius demanded like 1 million SEK for the rights. That is to say IF the OCN or even prints of Breaking Point even exist any more. I am not one to advocate piracy of easily available films, quite the contrary, but if I were you I'd download the rather nice looking VHS rip. It's up on CG in its most complete form, a composite from two different VHS sources.

Yes, I've seen Thriller countless times. Huge fan. Breaking Point is even better.

It's funny with Bo Vibenius, that he had a rather large role (assistant director or something, can't remember) in two Bergman productions, Persona and Hour of the Wolf. Then he made a well recieved kids film, and after that did a 180 and directed these two masterworks of euro sleaze. That he's a very competent director is beyond all doubt.

Paul L
04-13-2016, 03:26 PM
I watched this years ago. I like it more than THRILLER. I passed it on to a couple of friends at work who were gobsmacked by it. There's something really unsettling about it, and like you say I think that's got something to do with the focus on details. There's one particular scene, and you'll know the one I mean, where when I saw the film for the first time, I was genuinely afraid it would go into territory that I was really uncomfortable with - and Vibenius cuts away just at the right moment. But the ratcheting of tension during that scene is masterful and a product of the cumulative transgressions that have gone before it. I think I'll dust off my old copy and watch it again soon.

I'm sure the version I watched was complete, but I'm curious now that you mention a composite on CG.

enandalusiskhund
04-13-2016, 04:04 PM
Yes, I do know the scene, and I completely agree that the film is deeply unsettling. It's pornographic, but so unerotic and just strange and... maybe DANGEROUS is the correct word here, and, while you try to calm yourself intellectually, at that specific moment in the film, after all the weird shit that's gone before, emotionally you really aren't completely sure it won't go THERE.

Prior to yesterday I had only seen the older rip, which is from a nice looking source, transfered from a Swedish print with burnt in (hilarious) Swedish subs. The composite uses this as its foundation and adds some small bits of violence here and there from a worse looking VHS source. I have no idea what tapes these are taken from, but I know there's a french VHS release at least. Don't believe there is as Swedish VHS, which in all probability means the subbed transfer comes directly from a print (maybe Bo's own?) via VHS of course.

agent999
04-13-2016, 04:15 PM
I stopped watching it after that scene, I didn't want to see where it went after that. One of the strangest films I've ever seen (2/3rds of). May have to dig it out and watch it all, it's been about 15 years.

Keeth
04-13-2016, 05:38 PM
I have a dvd-r that came from a guy in Sweden (along with other films like Violence for Kicks) but I do not believe I have watched it. I think I'll dig it out tonight & take a look. I may grab the CG torrent, too, just in case my dvd-r doesn't play or looks like hell.

I use to use the artwork on the poster for my photo on fb.

Mark C.
04-13-2016, 05:56 PM
Yes, I do know the scene, and I completely agree that the film is deeply unsettling. It's pornographic, but so unerotic and just strange and... maybe DANGEROUS is the correct word here, and, while you try to calm yourself intellectually, at that specific moment in the film, after all the weird shit that's gone before, emotionally you really aren't completely sure it won't go THERE.

Prior to yesterday I had only seen the older rip, which is from a nice looking source, transfered from a Swedish print with burnt in (hilarious) Swedish subs. The composite uses this as its foundation and adds some small bits of violence here and there from a worse looking VHS source. I have no idea what tapes these are taken from, but I know there's a french VHS release at least. Don't believe there is as Swedish VHS, which in all probability means the subbed transfer comes directly from a print (maybe Bo's own?) via VHS of course.

Sounds like we will have to wait for him to die to see this film released, I wonder how old he is? :)

agent999
04-13-2016, 06:13 PM
It's no surprise to me that the creator of this film sounds as if he is completely fucking mental!

Randy G
04-13-2016, 10:03 PM
A memorable film, more interesting but less 'fun' to watch than Thriller, which I love.

Paul L
04-14-2016, 03:02 PM
Yes, I do know the scene, and I completely agree that the film is deeply unsettling. It's pornographic, but so unerotic and just strange and... maybe DANGEROUS is the correct word here, and, while you try to calm yourself intellectually, at that specific moment in the film, after all the weird shit that's gone before, emotionally you really aren't completely sure it won't go THERE.
Exactly. I couldn't agree more :)

Trailer (NSFW, naturally):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eewqv0kLYBQ

Opening titles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpEKfKfiQP4

And a scene that's ripe for family viewing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqXAClEKu40

Keeth
04-15-2016, 01:52 PM
I watched Breaking Point last night & while I get what everyone is saying about it here, it didn't have that affect on me, unfortunately. It's an okay film with some interesting imagery but that's about it. I'd buy it if it were given a dvd or bd release but I like Thriller: A Cruel Picture much, much more.

I wish bullets really did explode like that...