View Full Version : Jared Leto Joins The Yakuza In New Netflix Movie The Outsider

Ian Jane
02-22-2018, 04:45 PM
This was originally to be directed by Takashi Miike and star Tom Hardy. Now it's Jared Leto directed by Martin Zandvliet who, to be fair, I don't really know anything about.

Tadanobu Asano and Rory Cochrane are also in this thing.

"An American soldier imprisoned in postwar Japan enters the dark world of the yakuza, adopting their way of life in repayment for his freedom."


Alex K.
02-22-2018, 08:47 PM
Might be a decent mob movie.

Mark Tolch
02-22-2018, 08:50 PM
I don't know what it is, but at some point, I just got really pissed off looking at Jared Leto. I'll try to give this a watch, anyway.

paul h.
02-22-2018, 09:56 PM
I don't know what it is, but at some point, I just got really pissed off looking at Jared Leto. I'll try to give this a watch, anyway.

So, it's not just me.

Mark Tolch
02-24-2018, 09:07 AM
Nossir. Haha

The Silly Swede
02-24-2018, 03:12 PM
I don't know what it is, but at some point, I just got really pissed off looking at Jared Leto. I'll try to give this a watch, anyway.

Me Three!

02-24-2018, 10:00 PM
That trailer looks terrible. I remember some of us had posted about movie when it was still in the works a few years ago and how it's based on the life story of Nick Zapetti, the subject of the Robert Whiting book, TOKYO UNDERWORLD. They should've done a straight autobiographical movie about him instead of this YAKUZA lite shit. Too bad Tom Hardy pulled out of this as he was probably the only saving grace because Leto is terrible with zero screen presence. Not too mention that physically he just doesn't look the part. He looks like a tweaker that is always hanging around my local gas station. Maybe Hardy saw the writing on the wall on how awful this movie was going to be and hedged his bets.

A far more interesting post-war story than this crap is the tale of Hisayuki Machii, a Yakuza with a Korean father who was nicknamed "fanso" (violent bull) for his ferocity as he was known to have knocked out several American GIs in bar room brawls. I wish Miike would've tackled this one instead of another white savior trope for netflix. i can totally see Ma Dong-suk playing Machii - now that's a movie I'd pay good money to watch.

Darcy Parker
02-25-2018, 11:22 AM
Leto should cut off a finger to atone for that shitty bastardized portrayal of The Joker in Suicide Squad.

Mark Tolch
03-16-2018, 10:04 PM
Well, Leto isn't the worst part of this, because they wisely decided to give him a very minimal amount of lines, and place him amongst some pretty solid Japanese actors.

THAT being said, the movie isn't good because of this. It's about 2 hours long, and it more or less just hits a Yakuza film checklist....guys in suits, check, cutting off fingers, check, an angry old head of a clan yelling about honour, check...there's not much else to this. It's a turf war Yakuza flick with not much attention paid to the turf war. Might have worked better as a series, who knows. But it's not worth watching in it's present form.

Ian Jane
03-17-2018, 05:43 PM
So basically it's a Yakuza movie for people who have never seen a Yakuza movie?

Mark Tolch
03-17-2018, 05:56 PM
That's exactly how I would describe it.

Ian Jane
03-17-2018, 06:30 PM
I bet my mom would like it.

Mark Tolch
03-17-2018, 06:53 PM
Christmas ideas

Terry C
03-19-2018, 12:16 PM
Too bad Miike and Hardy didn't end up getting to do it. Everything I hear is that it's garbage, a bore, or just by the numbers.

12-02-2018, 02:11 AM
Saw this a enjoyed it a lot

The Outsider (USA, 2018) [Netflix] - 3.5/5
A highly entertaing twist to the usual yakuza film formula with Jared Leto as gaijin yakuza in 1950s Osaka and Kobe. The unusual protagonist adds a constant tension to a film that, with its depictions of Japanese yakuza, police and prison guards as corrupt animals... is otherwise just like any standard Japanese yakuza film! Indeed, there's is just a little bit too much familiarity to the ingredients as well as some tourist touring with one sumo, sauna or tattoo scene too much. The casting however is excellent (Kippei Shiina, Min Tanaka, Shun Sugata, Tadanobu Asano, Shioli Kutsuna) and the 50s milieu is nicely brought to life with good production values.

Obviously without its flaws, but to me some of the film’s poor reception strikes as a mix of modern sensitivity (oh no, don’t steal the poor Japanese their culture and trick their clueless actors into your film) and lack of knowledge of Japanese genre cinema. Of course you can criticize the film for clichés or being a movie for people who have never seen Fukasaku, Kitano or Miike films, but then, those are the genre’s most unique filmmakers. The criticism is valid if you take this approach, yes, but you’d have to disown 95% of Japanese genre cinema, including a lot of movies by genre favorites like Sadao Nakajima, on the same basis and I don’t see that happening.

Mark Tolch
12-02-2018, 02:29 PM
I didn't have a problem with the stealing of Japanese culture, I had a problem with Jared Leto cast as the lead in this. He doesn't have the chops to keep up with the superior cast they placed him in, and therefore, the idea that he could emerge as some kind of respected leader amongst his peers was not convincing. The story was weak, the execution was problematic, and the reason for that was precisely because of the "too much familiarity to the ingredients." I didn't hate it, but it fell short of even, "entertaining time waster" for me.