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Shawn Francis
02-05-2012, 09:46 PM
The Hulk in action!

Loki: "I have an army."
Stark: "We have a Hulk."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGt-saFvkNk

Todd Jordan
02-05-2012, 11:55 PM
I want to geek out at that, but I just can't. I think I am truly over the comic book movies.

Alex K.
02-06-2012, 12:00 AM
If I'm bored I'll watch it. I'm just not a big comic fan despite liking the villains. That's probably why I'm more interested in Dark Knight Rises because the Batman villains are really interesting, deep, and all kinds of fucked up in ways that most super villains aren't.

Toyboy
02-06-2012, 01:28 AM
The films leading up to THE AVENGERS (IRON MAN I & II, INCREDIBLE HULK, THOR, CAPTAIN AMERICA) have each embraced the concepts behind the comics they're based on and translated them reasonably well to the big screen, so I have a good feeling about this. I do, however, feel like after this film I will likely have reached my personal saturation point with the genre. There are already plans for IRON MAN 3 and THOR 2 but it seems like THE AVENGERS should be the capper to all these Marvel films and they should call it a win and walk away since we'll just get diminishing returns from here on out.

Saying that, I'm sure my curiosity will get the better of me with any subsequent superhero movies though - I'm already planning on renting the new GHOST RIDER movie just to see if it's possible to make a movie worse than the first one, and I'm willing to check out Zack Snyder's SUPERMAN reboot in order to witness how badly he'll fuck it up. I will also admit to hoping for another BATMAN reboot after DARK NIGHT RISES comes out, but mainly for the possibility of seeing another take on The Joker.

The Silly Swede
02-06-2012, 10:38 AM
Yeah, if I had stopped developing when I was 13 I might have liked that. I would in such a scenario also still have hair on my head and I would most likely work in some government controlled workshop that employs only retarded people. But since I did mature past the age of 13, I will give this one a pass. Besides, I have seen this film already when they called it X-Men or Batman or Spider-Man or whatever, since all these films are exactly alike in story structure and utilise the exact same special-effects.

Ian Jane
02-06-2012, 11:18 AM
I think it's really just going to come down to how much effort they put into the characters. Some of the X-Men movies I've enjoyed for that reason, they got the characters right. This is obviously a factor that works in favor of the comics (or books or whatever) in that you aren't specifically limited to a 2 hour window and you can take your time to develop the characters properly, it'll inevitibly get rushed in the film version, but that doesn't mean it has to be a carbon copy of the other movies that have come before it. Horror movies are just as guilty as comic book movies in terms of recycling the same story over and over, action movies too.

The Silly Swede
02-06-2012, 11:25 AM
Yeah, perhaps. But why do they use the same SFX? Why does the Hulk fly? I have no idea. It all just seems so mass-produced and tacky.

Ian Jane
02-06-2012, 11:39 AM
The Hulk could kinda-sorta fly in the comics by jumping really long distances.

I always thought that was kind of stupid, personally.

Toyboy
02-06-2012, 12:13 PM
Yeah, if I had stopped developing when I was 13 I might have liked that. I would in such a scenario also still have hair on my head and I would most likely work in some government controlled workshop that employs only retarded people. But since I did mature past the age of 13, I will give this one a pass.


OH MY FUCKING GOD! This is the best news I have heard since 1985!!!! I must buy this! Nemesis is my favorite Pyun film of all time!

I'm going to assume you were older than 13 in '85.

The Silly Swede
02-06-2012, 12:18 PM
Actually, I was not. But Pyun is Pyun. His films are on a completely different level. Comparing Pyun to anyone else is like comparing Mozart to a retard banging pots and pans.

Also, I might have been a bit ironic in the "best news" statement above ;)

Ian Jane
02-06-2012, 12:24 PM
So do you own Pyun's Captain America?

Toyboy
02-06-2012, 12:26 PM
You gotta admit though, this site and our "hobby" are fueled by quite a bit of arrested development and nostalgia. We're all trying to recapture that feeling we got at 13 when we first got into this hoo-hah, and pretty much any modern genre film is fairly trite in both content and execution because its all about pushing those old buttons.

Many of the recent superhero films have been poor (I'm looking at you, GREEN LANTERN) but the averages are in line with other genres in that for every good film there are 2 or 3 mediocre ones and about a dozen shit piles. The question then becomes "Do you want THOR 2 or THE INNKEEPERS?". Personally, I'll take THOR 2.

The Silly Swede
02-06-2012, 12:33 PM
I have Pyuns Captain America on VHS. I hate its guts. Incredibly lame film. And yes, Toy Boy is right. I want nostalgia. And I love Batman from 1989 and Flash Gordon like you wouldnt believe. I am just so incredibly frustrated at these mass-produced PG-13 CGI wankfests that are completely dominating the mainstream film scene of today.

I want my mainstream films to be more like in the 80s and 90s. Les gimmicky. More R-rated. And Special Effects only to enhance the action and not BE the action.

Shawn Francis
02-06-2012, 04:37 PM
I'm 43 and I NEVER outgrew my love for animated superhero flicks and cartoons. Hell, I love animation/anime in general, and look more forward to the animated hero stuff rather than the live action nowadays. That being said, I still wanna see this movie. Always been a fan of the Hulk. More a fan of Marvel, but their animated movies, aside from three of them, were crap. DC makes better animated movies, with better animation. Marvel's pinnacle in that department was HULK VS., specifically HULK VS WOLVERINE. Animation, action and character, were excellent, and there was blood, and people died. If you're posting on sites like this, especially threads like these, you have some form of "arrested development." Might as well own it, than deny it. Nothing wrong with being in touch with the kid inside you.

Ian Jane
02-06-2012, 04:47 PM
DC definitely does the animated thing right. The Brave & The Bold animated series is consistently awesome. They've done very good things with Batman in animated form.

Alex K.
02-06-2012, 11:52 PM
The DC animated is actually really good. Which surprised me for sure. The Wonder Woman film is just shy of getting an R rating, and Batman: Year One was outstanding.

Zane C.
02-07-2012, 01:06 AM
I want to see this as well. The lead up movies to this (CAPTAIN AMERICA, THOR, IRON MAN, etc) were well done, IMO, and were entertaining. I don't go to these movies for Oscar-worthy performances. They're big, dumb entertainment based on comic books that are equally as entertaining. Not everything has to be a masterpiece, and not everyone wants arthouse intelligence in a movie.

Should we expect quality? Yes. Should we expect it be the next Academy award winner? No.

Just my two cents!

Dom D
02-07-2012, 01:26 AM
These super hero trailers sure look pretty similar. Trying to sell a movie by showing how much stuff blows up has got to get tired at some point surely. Having been to a few of these I figure I've seen most stuff blown up at this point and feel the need of something more to get me out to the cinemas.

Interesting to see how this goes. Whedon seems to be a god in some circles but the mans resume is pretty light on quality. I enjoyed some of Buffy back in the day but it doesn't really hold up when you go back to it- Buffy was essentially a soap in a lot of ways so repeat viewings don't really work. Dollhouse was kind of fun but mostly because it was hard to see where it was going. Turns out not even Whedon knew. Feature films credits so far: Alien Ressurection, Titan AE, Serenity.

Ian Jane
08-08-2012, 10:44 AM
Joss Whedeon has signed on (http://twitchfilm.com/news/2012/08/joss-whedon-avengers-2-and-you.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TwitchEverything+%28Twitch%3A +Everything%29) to write The Avengers 2.

"Disney confirmed that Whedon has been signed to write and direct The Avengers 2; he will also be working on a live-action Marvel television series for U.S. broadcast network ABC.

Later, Marvel Studios added that Whedon has actually been signed with them to an exclusive deal for three years, which means "he will also contribute creatively to the next phase of Marvel's cinematic universe," according to a statement passed along by Los Angeles Times."

Ian Jane
08-21-2012, 10:50 AM
There's a gag reel from the movie posted here (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/avengers-gag-reel-captain-america-coulson-364272?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheHollywoodReporter_Showbiz4 11+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+Showbiz%29) featuring a very giggly Captain America.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1L-2fXYjE34

sukebanboy
08-21-2012, 11:16 AM
i hate gag reels......:down:

Alex K.
08-22-2012, 05:48 AM
I'm watching the DVD. It's a fun flick, light and fluffy and funny, no harm in that. But man does Captain America's suit look fucking stupid.

Dom D
08-26-2012, 08:44 PM
Wow this film needs to come with a primer. It's staggering that a film that is this geeky and requires so much comic book knowledge to be comprehensible can be the third highest grossing film of all time. Sat there in complete incomprehension for most of it until it settled down into here's a bunch of superheroes who need that box what the bad guys got because the bad guys are going to do something bad with it. Like where's the introduction to the Hawkeye character? Took about 2/3rds of the movie till I realised he was a player. My girlfriend didn't pick up that Banner was the Hulk till about halfway through. Still no idea who those dudes are who seem to be sitting on an asteroid plotting something. Was that last reveal of the red dude supposed to be mean something?

Surprised this got good reviews but then I suppose the critics have had to sit through Thor, Captain America et al whereas I really couldn't work up the interest for them. Possibly they'd help somehow. Still I think they could do with some kind of introduction to let people who aren't primed have some idea of what the hells going on. You know the kind of thing: Visuals lot of smoke and fire and big armies marching. Audio, trailer voice guy ominously intoning "Once upon a time there was a blue box what everyone wanted..."

Alex K.
08-26-2012, 10:25 PM
I don't think it's that incomprehensible. Hulk is pretty self-explanatory, as is Capt. America. Now Thor and Loki probably need to know their back stories but it's still pretty clear to the audience. And in this day and age you have Wikipedia and IMDB and Yahoo Answers to instantly look up anything.

Barry M
08-26-2012, 11:02 PM
But man does Captain America's suit look fucking stupid.

Todd will fight you now.

Dom D
08-26-2012, 11:04 PM
I don't think it's that incomprehensible. Hulk is pretty self-explanatory, as is Capt. America. Now Thor and Loki probably need to know their back stories but it's still pretty clear to the audience. And in this day and age you have Wikipedia and IMDB and Yahoo Answers to instantly look up anything.

Well you shouldn't really need to be consulting wikipedia during a movie. Captain America for instance was just kind of there. By the end of the movie I gleaned that he was a government super soldier who had crashed his plane or something and had either died or been frozen and woken up sometime recently but that's information that is not given to you up front. Thor and Loki were probably the easiest things to grasp (I was already familiar with Iron Man) as they're Norse myths though they seem to have been cast as Aliens here.

But take a look at that first scene. They're assuming a hell of lot of knowledge of the backstory here. There's nothing wrong with that- this is clearly one for the fans- I'm just surprised it had such mainstream appeal given that.

Barry M
08-26-2012, 11:06 PM
The previous movies really created the audience they needed for this one. I think they were pretty safe just throwing things onscreen without having to worry too much.

Alex K.
08-27-2012, 01:18 AM
Todd will fight you now.

Come at me bro!

Zane C.
08-27-2012, 01:44 AM
Wow this film needs to come with a primer. It's staggering that a film that is this geeky and requires so much comic book knowledge to be comprehensible can be the third highest grossing film of all time. Sat there in complete incomprehension for most of it until it settled down into here's a bunch of superheroes who need that box what the bad guys got because the bad guys are going to do something bad with it. Like where's the introduction to the Hawkeye character? Took about 2/3rds of the movie till I realised he was a player. My girlfriend didn't pick up that Banner was the Hulk till about halfway through. Still no idea who those dudes are who seem to be sitting on an asteroid plotting something. Was that last reveal of the red dude supposed to be mean something?

Surprised this got good reviews but then I suppose the critics have had to sit through Thor, Captain America et al whereas I really couldn't work up the interest for them. Possibly they'd help somehow. Still I think they could do with some kind of introduction to let people who aren't primed have some idea of what the hells going on. You know the kind of thing: Visuals lot of smoke and fire and big armies marching. Audio, trailer voice guy ominously intoning "Once upon a time there was a blue box what everyone wanted..."

Good vs. Evil.

You don't really need to understand any backstory besides this. Even if you have no background with any of the characters, it's pretty straightforward. The geeky tips of the hat are extra little nuggets thrown in there for readers of the comics and hardcore fans.

And the "red guy" at the end? Thanos, I believe, who has a BIG arc in the comics (ie. taking over the universe, if I'm not mistaken). His plan is also pretty obvious, even in that short clip. You're not required as a viewer to even know who the hell he is, just that he has obvious designs for universal domination, and that he acknowledges that Earth is protected by The Avengers.

I'm not trying to be a wiseass, Dom, but even though I've seen the other films and have read the comics (some of them), I didn't see the film as being difficult to understand. In fact, because of its accessibility and wide appeal, I think that's what helped it make so much $$$.

Your mileage may vary.

Dom D
08-27-2012, 02:51 AM
I'm not trying to be a wiseass, Dom, but even though I've seen the other films and have read the comics (some of them), I didn't see the film as being difficult to understand. In fact, because of its accessibility and wide appeal, I think that's what helped it make so much $$$

I'd say there's a bit more to it than that but maybe I wasn't picking up as much as I should have as I was pretty knackered at the time. Whatever the case, and never mind the rest of the film, can I just say that this bit is an absolutely virtuoso piece of special effects filmmaking. Brilliantly done and a bit of humour to it too:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCpqM8al_nQ&feature=youtu.be

Ian Jane
03-31-2014, 09:36 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VqGHsOdWYc

sukebanboy
03-31-2014, 10:41 AM
I hope the finished movie is more exciting than that footage!!!:funny: