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Zane C.
04-22-2012, 11:20 PM
So, I'm just watching ZOMBIE again for the first time in a few years. The movie is entertaining, but laughable at the same time. I enjoy Fulci's movies, but I'm not liking it as much as the first time I saw it. I suspect the law of diminishing returns will apply to his movies for me.

Next up: THE BEYOND and CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD!

What's the consensus on Fulci? How do YOU like his movies?

Marshall Crist
04-22-2012, 11:40 PM
A few of them I love and most of them I am indifferent toward. The ones I don't tire of are HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY, THE BEYOND and CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD. I also have a lot of respect for DON'T TORTURE A DUCKLING and LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN. Recently had an epiphany that not only do I not particularly care for ZOMBIE or NEW YORK RIPPER, I never did. His later stuff I find unwatchable. I cannot fathom the love some have for PERVERSION STORY and particularly BEATRICE CENZI.

I think that pretty much sums it up for me.

Ian Jane
04-23-2012, 10:48 AM
More hits than misses for me though some of the later stuff is dire. Four of the Apocalypse would be right up you spaghetti western loving alley if you haven't seen it already, Zane. I find a lot of times with Fulci that there are great moments in his films, even when the films themselves aren't great if that makes any sense. I'd say The Beyond is the best thing he ever made, and my favorite of his moves. I think it's a much better film than Zombie.

Todd Jordan
04-23-2012, 10:56 AM
The Beyond is his best in my useless opinion. I love his zombie trilogy the most of all, but I've only seen maybe a dozen of his movies. My 16 year old neice has expressed an interest in cult movies and I will be intriducing her to Fulci this summer actually. I sent her a copy of The Brood (her request), so she's on the right track. Cool girl. She'll make some lucky nerd a good catch.

Paul Casey
04-23-2012, 02:53 PM
Ones I dig that don't get mentioned a lot are Conquest and Touch of Death. Sure, Touch isn't really "good," but I think it's funny...on purpose!
But, yeah, The Beyond is his best. So rad.

Todd Jordan
04-23-2012, 05:22 PM
Conquest is cool. I love 70s and 80s sword & sandals epics.

Scott MacDonald
04-23-2012, 06:52 PM
I love Fulci flicks. My favorite horror film of all-time is The Beyond, and I agree with Ian in regards to him having more hits than misses although his later work is definitely more in the misses category.

My favorites are...

The Beyond
City of the Living Dead
House by the Cemetery
Zombi 2
Lizard in a Woman's Skin
Don't Torture the Duckling
Beatrice Cenci
The Psychic
Conquest
New York Ripper
Cat in the Brain

I hated
Zombi 3
Door into Silence
Manhattan Baby

There's still way more I need to see....

Robert W
04-23-2012, 07:53 PM
The Beyond is a beautiful film, but I think House By The Cemetery is equally stunning in terms of visuals.

Another film of Fulci's that I've really come love is Contraband. Too bad he didn't make more films in this genre because this film kicks a lot of ass.

Alex K.
04-23-2012, 08:00 PM
I think a lot of misses can be chalked up to Fulci's failing health and a dying industry. But I think saying that may imply that I'm an apologist for the man's schlock but I think it's being realistic to say that you're watching films by a man who desperately needed the work.

That said: I grew up on his films an still watch almost all the time. The horror films (Zombie and The Beyond in particular) are amazingly well done despite the pit falls of the industry and the inevitable plot holes and things lost in translation. But hey, Argento flicks have just as many plot holes as Fulci's and I don't read nearly enough messages pointing that out.

Fulci's best films:

Don't Torture a Duckling
Lizard in a Woman's Skin
The Psychic
Beatrice Cenci
Four of the Apocalypse
Zombie
City of the Living Dead
The Beyond
House by the Cemetery.

Mediocre/guilty pleasures:

Murder Rock
Conquest
New York Ripper
House of Clocks
Touch of Death
Cat in the Brain
Voices from Beyond
Demonia

Ian Jane
04-23-2012, 08:29 PM
Another film of Fulci's that I've really come love is Contraband. Too bad he didn't make more films in this genre because this film kicks a lot of ass.

Very true. He proved with that one crime film he had a real knack for that genre. It's a real shame never dabbled in it again.

I'm with you in regards to the visuals in HBTC, it looks fantastic - Bob really pulls me out of it though.

Robert W
04-23-2012, 08:39 PM
Very true. He proved with that one crime film he had a real knack for that genre. It's a real shame never dabbled in it again.

I'm with you in regards to the visuals in HBTC, it looks fantastic - Bob really pulls me out of it though.

Yeah, that's easily the most annoying dub jobs in film history.

Another film I really liked of his was Massacre Time. Took a little while for the film to get going, but I thought it was really enjoyable once it dd.

Also, like Bava, Fulci is one of those directors whom you always think what could they have done with a big budget.

Zane C.
04-23-2012, 09:32 PM
You guys raise good points. I do like THE BEYOND a lot, though not as a straight-forward film with a coherent narrative. It's more of an experience, and I do like that film, even though it's unrelentingly bleak.

I have to check out FOTA, Ian. I haven't seen it, and I do love me some spaghetti westerns! I also agree with what you said about Fulci's films being more about moments than the actual films themselves.

Paul and Todd, I totally have to check out CONQUEST. It looks like something I'd dig. Thanks for the heads up!

Robert, I have to agree about CONTRABAND as well - I do like that one, and also wish Fulci would have done more "mob action" movies.

Soooooo....looks like THE BEYOND seems to be most people's favorite! Can't argue with that!

Robert W
04-23-2012, 10:15 PM
Fulci, like Rollin, understood that for a horror film to "succeed," it needs to completely abandon coherent narration and embrace the irrational. But as bleak as The Beyond and CotLD are, they pale in comparison to the bleakness of New York Ripper, which, I believe, is Fulci's true masterpiece.

Getting back to Euro-crimes for a sec, I would have loved to seen Fulci work with Henry Silva.

Dom D
04-24-2012, 04:50 AM
Don't Torture A Duckling, The Psychic and Lizard In A Womans Skin are up there with the best gialli ever made. Not as much love for Perversion story. The horror films leave me pretty cold.

Newt Cox
04-24-2012, 05:39 AM
So far outta the 5 Fulci films I have seen I have enjoyed them all. The first I saw was the old VHS release of Gates of hell. Then sometime in the mid 90s I got a VHS of ZOmbi. Then in the late 90s I got a bootleg of the uncut version of Cat in the Brain. Later on I got one of those Brentwood sets with House by the cementery. And then got the Grindhouse release of The Beyond. The Beyond is my favorite with House by the cememtery being my least favorite.

Todd Jordan
04-24-2012, 08:58 AM
Fulci, like Rollin, understood that for a horror film to "succeed," it needs to completely abandon coherent narration and embrace the irrational.

That's such a great understanding, because anything with a supernatural or unnatural element is totally irrational. Why not throw caution to the wind and make it totally visceral. No one ever talks about the story behind, say Shiver of the Vampires or the Beyond. They talk about the fucked up visuals and the impact they have.

We don't need rational explanaition and back story. Just hit us with it and let us work out the details.

Ian Jane
04-24-2012, 09:04 AM
Then in the late 90s I got a bootleg of the uncut version of Cat in the Brain.

The first time I saw this one, I don't know if it was just the wrong sort of expectations on my part or what, but I really didn't like it very much. Watched it again when Grindhouse put it out and completely changed my mind - I actually wound up really enjoying it. I think maybe I was expecting something more serious the first time I saw it and so when I didn't get that, it bugged me. It's a pretty great movie though.

Todd Jordan
04-24-2012, 09:07 AM
I haven't watch Cat yet, but I have the Grindhouse disc. The mood just hasn't swept me. I need to go on a Fulci kick.

Robert W
04-24-2012, 03:50 PM
I haven't watch Cat yet, but I have the Grindhouse disc. The mood just hasn't swept me. I need to go on a Fulci kick.

I highly recommend this disc, not only for the film itself, but the for the extras, which I think make this disc worth purchasing on its own.

Getting back to narratives for a sec, Fulci described himself as a genre terrorist. But I think, in the case with his horror flicks, he was terrorizing more than just the genre, but the psyches of those viewing his films. Look at at the eyeball scene from Zombie, the the intestine vomiting/drill through the head scenes from CotLD, the .357 to the face scene in The Beyond, or, my personal favorite, the razor across the eyeball scene from New York Ripper. What is Fulci trying to do as a filmmaker here? Is he trying to forward a coherent narrative? Hardly! He's out to do one thing, shock you out of your cinematic complacency. This, maybe with the exception of Argento and Romero, he could do better than any other filmmaker I know of that wasn't using either snuff or porn to make their cinematic points.

Randy G
04-28-2012, 04:52 AM
THE BEYOND is the only horror film of his I really like entirely. I'm no fan of NEW YORK, not because of how 'extreme' it is but because outside of the murder sequences it can't hold my interest remotely. It feel like the film of a defeated and dispirited filmmaker, imo.

I think DON'T TORTURE THE DUCKLING, LIZARD IN A WOMAN'S SKIN and FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE are his best films (although FOUR is a mite too slack in the middle). MASSACRE TIME is underrated.

CONQUEST is enjoyably bad and cheesy, I think Zane will dig it.

Robert W
04-28-2012, 10:13 PM
I'd totally forgotten that he'd directed Massacre Time until about a couple of months ago when I was surfing Youtube for spaghetti Westerns to watch. I saw that the film was posted in its entirety and like its title so I started watching. Then I saw Fulci's name as the director and was like WTF?!? Don't know why Fulci hated Nero so much, but thought he was very good in the film. Also Nero's co-star, George Hilton, reminded by a lot of George Eastman.

ZoSo
04-30-2012, 12:30 AM
Anyone ever seen this one?

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/ZoSoIV/Other%20One%20Sheets/Challenge_to_White_Fang.jpg

Robert W
04-30-2012, 07:42 PM
Is that the same German shepherd from the Beyond? If so, that kid better watch his face. :)

Paul L
05-01-2012, 09:15 AM
I really like Fulci's White Fang pictures. They're a little silly in places, and they're surprisingly brutal for childrens' films, but they're a lot of fun.

MetalZ
05-02-2012, 01:26 PM
I love The Beyond, Derek was bored. I still can't for the life of me understand why. Someday I'm going to to reshow it to him for a final try.

Wow I can't belive I own "Don't Torture A Duckling and haven't watched it yet". But that's ok I do that went I want to give myself a surprise on a rainy day. I think that will be this weekend.

Paul L
01-04-2014, 09:50 PM
I'm rewatching DOOR INTO SILENCE at the moment, and I'm finding it much more interesting this time around. (I bought the Severin DVD when it was released five years ago but never got round to watching it as I remembered being unimpressed with the film the first time I saw it.) It's quite atmospheric, with the texture of a dream or nightmare; my perception of it has definitely been elevated by this viewing.

Tom Clark
01-05-2014, 12:12 AM
I've been on a bit of a Fulci kick as of late. Any other fans here of The Devil's Honey (1986)? I'm not going to say its my favorite of his but its damn close and I think its the best of his post Ripper films and his last true masterpiece. Its likely to make anyone who labels Fulci a misogynist do a serious double take.

Terry C
01-05-2014, 11:32 AM
Anyone ever seen this one?

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww316/ZoSoIV/Other%20One%20Sheets/Challenge_to_White_Fang.jpg


If only this starred Bob...

Alex K.
01-05-2014, 05:15 PM
I know it has its fans but Devil's Honey never did anything for me. The horrible dubbing probably had something to do with it but the story just didn't feel arresting in any way. I think his best later day films are:

Conquest. It's a guilty pleasure and I sincerely doubt Fulci intended this to be taken serious. I bring that up because all the criticism I read about it constantly harps on this being cheesy and OTT. Even Steven Thrower harps on this, the guy who could write 10 paragraphs on perceived anti-semitism in New York Ripper and dwelling on Feminism and Freudian and I think even Jungian thoughts on the splinter in the eye scene in Zombie. It's a B movie and it's a fun one. There's Wookies fighting cavemen with stone nun chucks.

Touch of Death. The first 60 minutes. It opens well and the black humor works, there's some fantastic gore too. The problem is the 3rd act where Zora Kerova is introduced (via painting lipstick over a gigantic herpes scar) and it drags down to a halt. Literally nothing happens until the obvious twist we saw coming from the very beginning finally kicks in.

House of Clocks. Again, some of the dubbing hurts it but this one is pretty damn good. Great structure, an un-obvious twist, Fulci-styled nihilism, good gore and a great overall Poe feeling reminiscent of The Psychic in some ways.

Paul L
01-05-2014, 08:39 PM
I really like CONQUEST. It looks fantastic when played on a big screen: those weird and wonderful visuals need to be seen at a cinema. Not a big fan of TOUCH OF DEATH, I have to say, though I haven't seen it in over a decade.

I never got round to checking out SWEET HOUSE OF HORRORS or HOUSE OF CLOCKS, although I should do someday.

In terms of Fulci's late career stuff, I have a real fondness for VOICES FROM BEYOND, which I hated when I first saw it but which has grown on me over the years.

Alex K.
01-06-2014, 08:17 AM
Voices From Beyond has some good things in it and is almost a return to his earlier Gialli routes but the TV production values and the non-ending hurt it.

Paul L
01-06-2014, 08:41 AM
Voices From Beyond has some good things in it and is almost a return to his earlier Gialli routes but the TV production values and the non-ending hurt it.
Agreed on both counts, Alex: the general 'cheapness' of his later productions is what usually works against them, I think, although sometimes these choices may have been deliberate 'artistic' decisions (the diffuse lighting, etc, of many of those latter-day Fulci pictures) that contribute to the perception of them as 'cheap'. VOICES FROM BEYOND's ending is a bit of a damp squib too, but I think Fulci's later films mostly had problems with their endings, which often seemed off-hand and inconsequential: some of his earlier films struggled to resolve themselves in their final sequences too, and I guess this is a criticism that, as I recall, was for many years quite often levelled at Fulci's early 1980s work (NEW YORK RIPPER, MANHATTAN BABY, CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD, HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY); however, this struggle to find an ending for his films definitely became a more pronounced trait in the later pictures.

I'm hoping to revisit MURDER ROCK soon. I bought the Shriek Show DVD when it was first released but never watched it (I'd seen the film years before, on VHS, and was unimpressed with it). Time to revisit that one, I think.

Alex K.
01-06-2014, 09:14 AM
The Murder Rock DVD has a great interview/commentary of Fulci and for that alone it's worth checking out. Murder Rock is one of his last films that enjoyed reasonably high production values and it has its moments but had it gone all the way with either being a slasher/gialli or simply a Flashdance rip off it would have been more successful.

Tom Clark
01-06-2014, 02:30 PM
I think Fulci's later films mostly had problems with their endings, which often seemed off-hand and inconsequential: some of his earlier films struggled to resolve themselves in their final sequences too, and I guess this is a criticism that, as I recall, was for many years quite often levelled at Fulci's early 1980s work (NEW YORK RIPPER, MANHATTAN BABY, CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD, HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY); however, this struggle to find an ending for his films definitely became a more pronounced trait in the later pictures.
Regarding the ending of Manhattan Baby, the interview with Fulci collaborator and co-writer Dardano Sacchetti on the DVD, while brief is a real neat watch because he discusses the ending of the film, more specifically the religious influences behind the films finale, IE the differing of opinions between the English and Italians regarding good and evil. Pretty interesting stuff. While I'm on the subject of Manhattan Baby, I'm always quick to stand up for that one. While its obviously not Fulci's best I think the amount of grief its gotten over the years is a bit unfair.

Alex K.
01-06-2014, 02:32 PM
Manhattan Baby had a lot going for it. I think most are disappointed in that aspect. But it was a film that no one but De Angelis wanted to make and it shows. Trailer was good though.

Terry C
01-06-2014, 02:40 PM
Murder Rock is certainly a fun one one and has many amazing shots of NYC, amongst the aerobics and sleazy disco that is.

I'm surprised at how much I enjoyed A Cat in the Brain despite it taking some chunks from other Fulci films. Him leaving in the boat waving to us/film crew was pretty much his way of saying goodbye. Not his last film, but one that leaves of on THE solid note.

Ian Jane
10-01-2014, 08:36 AM
There's an Australian 'Gates Of Hell' trilogy coming out on Blu-ray soon.

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http://www.screenpop.com.au/blu-ray/gates-of-hell-trilogy/27654.html

Koukol
10-01-2014, 01:28 PM
All three movies on one BD?

Ian Jane
10-01-2014, 01:48 PM
The link says it's a 3 disc set.

Alex K.
10-01-2014, 02:29 PM
I remember when I was a kid the movies were considered a quartet and included Zombie (naturally). Then around the mid 00's people started to refer to City of the Living Dead, The Beyond, and House by the Cemetery as the "Seven Gates Trilogy."

I dunno, I think House kinda' fits but to say it's part of an intended trilogy is a real stretch. It's probably just marketing BS.

Lalala76
10-01-2014, 03:53 PM
I dunno, I think House kinda' fits but to say it's part of an intended trilogy is a real stretch. It's probably just marketing BS

I see the opening the gates of hell theme throughout the three films but I have never really viewed them as an intended trilogy. Just standalone films imo. I'm sure Fulci never intended that, but I'm no expert.

Alex K.
10-01-2014, 04:01 PM
I believe there's an interview somewhere where Lucio agreed that the 4 films were thematically similar and could be seen as a quartet but it wasn't his intent.

Tom Clark
01-01-2015, 05:08 PM
Just watched The House of Clocks (1989). What a wonderfully weird little flick this is. Even before time starts to run backward there is already an air of "what the fuck is going on here?" about it and it just gets more and more random. Obviously is screams made for TV but there's a certain charm to that kind of look I think, plus all the soft focus work and bright lighting look gorgeous. Karina Huff is real easy on the eyes as well. Really good later Fulci if you ask me.

Alex K.
01-01-2015, 06:23 PM
I think House of Clocks is his last good horror film. The only thing that hurts it is some really bad dubbing. That and I think the lead actress was several months pregnant, notice that we never see her from the waist down.

Good flick. Surprisingly nihilistic.

Tom Clark
01-01-2015, 06:34 PM
The only thing that hurts it is some really bad dubbing.
I love the line towards the end, "I couldn't even relax with a joint of good stuff."

J Frank
01-02-2015, 08:37 PM
ZOMBIE is my favorite of his horror films followed by CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD, followed by THE BEYOND.

FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE is one of my favorite spaghetti westerns.

Alex K.
01-03-2015, 12:04 PM
Just thought I'd mention this:

https://www.facebook.com/BeatRecordsCompany/photos/a.250956011612120.56888.250936841614037/846474625393586/?type=1&theater

A release of the OST of Contraband AKA The Smuggler is coming in January.

Wllm Clys
02-03-2015, 03:34 PM
I watched "House of Clocks" today. Good film, nice made for tv vibes.

By the way, did Badalamenti / Lynch rip off the music in this film for Twin Peaks or what?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7Ol7oIQDAg&t=78m20s

Alex K.
02-24-2015, 01:33 AM
I just thought this was cool:

https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/488543881051398146

Hideo Kojima (very famous game developer, most famous for the Metal Gear franchise) is a fan of Fulci and The Beyond.

Alex K.
02-24-2015, 04:42 PM
Let me pose a question: since City of the Living Dead and the Beyond have Lovecraftian elements, that is the town of Dunwich in City, the Book of Eibon (which was an invetion by Clark Ashton Smith who contributed to the greater Cthulhu mythos) and a world-ending apocalypse, would you consider The Beyond and City to be part of the greater Cthulhu mythology?

Christian Bates-Hardy
02-24-2015, 06:05 PM
Let me pose a question: since City of the Living Dead and the Beyond have Lovecraftian elements, that is the town of Dunwich in City, the Book of Eibon (which was an invetion by Clark Ashton Smith who contributed to the greater Cthulhu mythos) and a world-ending apocalypse, would you consider The Beyond and City to be part of the greater Cthulhu mythology?

I definitely consider them part of the expanded Mythos. I wish there more films that were inspired by Clark Ashton Smith's writing. I enjoy the mythos stories that he and Robert E. Howard wrote even more than Lovecraft's originals.

Ian Jane
03-21-2015, 05:15 PM
If you've got the El Rey Network...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAlFZ3HUkAA3_LQ.jpg

...kinda awesome that this is being shown on TV?

Alex K.
03-21-2015, 05:32 PM
Well, The Beyond was on TCM (twice I think) so it was only a matter of time. How would you guys rank Fulci's Zombie/Apocalyptic/Gothic horror quartet?

For me:

1: The Beyond. A fucking masterpiece. A true art house horror film. Some of the greatest cinematography of all of Italian horror. Amazing gore. Amazing soundtrack. Very likable actors. And the ending just kicks you in the gut.

2: Zombie. The perfect pulp zombie movie. The definitive voodoo-centric zombie movie.

3: House by the Cemetery. It would be one of the great haunted house flicks if it weren't for the dubbing of Bob (It really irritated me at first, but I've become tolerant of it) and a couple of distracting and almost nonsensical moments along with kind of a weak ending take it down a peg. It's still great and I love it. I recognize that the ending tries to be more low-key and haunting but in comparison to Zombie and the Beyond it's just not up there.

4: City of the Living Dead this is a movie where the sum does not equal its parts. There's some amazing sequences and cinematography. But it never takes hold with a certain tone and just seems to bounce around from scene to scene. And it easily has the worst ending of the quartet. Had it ended with Catriona and Carlo DeMajo exiting the tomb, that would have been fine. But instead it kept going and yeah... Fulci never really commented on that ending.

Marshall Crist
03-21-2015, 09:34 PM
1. HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY. Bob's dubbing aside, pretty much everything works for me. I think it has the strongest score and the prettiest actress (Ania Pieroni.) Just really clicks with me for some reason(s.)

2. THE BEYOND. Just a great, crowd-pleasing film, with a variety of fun scenes.

3. CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD. Odd film. Not quite as engrossing due to somewhat less engaging characters and storyline, but still very good.

4. ZOMBIE. Has a few good set-pieces, but the rest of the film leaves me utterly flat.

Paul L
03-22-2015, 04:11 AM
1. HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY. Bob's dubbing aside, pretty much everything works for me. I think it has the strongest score and the prettiest actress (Ania Pieroni.) Just really clicks with me for some reason(s.)

2. THE BEYOND. Just a great, crowd-pleasing film, with a variety of fun scenes.

3. CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD. Odd film. Not quite as engrossing due to somewhat less engaging characters and storyline, but still very good.

4. ZOMBIE. Has a few good set-pieces, but the rest of the film leaves me utterly flat.
Switch THE BEYOND and HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY around and that'd be my order too - for much the same reasons. THE BEYOND is comfort food for me, as I used to watch it repeatedly back in the late 1980s/early 1990s.

To be honest, it's a closely-run race: they're all very good films, imo.

Wllm Clys
03-31-2015, 11:03 AM
Does anyone know where the 'crypt' scenes in "Demonia" were filmed? I'm talking about the room in the monastery with the coffins and skeletons.

Ian Jane
04-01-2015, 08:53 AM
So it looks like that French Lizard Blu is going to be a pretty stacked SE and English friendly at that.

http://www.luciofulci.fr/sorties-blu-ray-dvd/exclusif-le-venin-de-la-peur-supplements-et-couverture-reveles

Paul L
04-01-2015, 09:18 AM
So it looks like that French Lizard Blu is going to be a pretty stacked SE and English friendly at that.

http://www.luciofulci.fr/sorties-blu-ray-dvd/exclusif-le-venin-de-la-peur-supplements-et-couverture-reveles
Good news!

I rewatched ZOMBI 2 last night and reflected on something that's been bugging me for years. The film opens with Menard shooting a rising corpse (Tisa Farrow/Anne Bowle's father, I'm guessing) and saying, in a dramatic manner (whilst his face is also in a film noir-esque silhouette), 'The boat can leave now; tell the crew'. (This was missing from the UK VHS version by which I first saw the film, which cut straight into the film's opening titles; so the first time I saw this pre-credits scene was via the Anchor Bay DVD, I think.) However, later in the film the same moment is played out, as Menard tells the story to Anne, Peter, Brian and Susan, but Menard is much more sympathetic in this version of events and delivers the line in an almost mournful manner. I've often wondered if this is like the famous 'lying flashback' in Hitchcock's STAGE FRIGHT - that what we're being shown on screen whilst Menard narrates is a visualisation of Menard's version of events, in which he presents himself as a far more sympathetic character than he actually is (as opposed to the 'objective'/unbiased depictions of narrative events that we usually associated with commercial cinema). Certainly, the contrast between the two scenes (which, owing to the use of the same line are clearly intended to depict the same series of events) is interesting.

I don't think I'd ever noticed the out of focus zombies just behind Anne, Brian and Peter as they approach the church too - a detail probably not really visible on the VHS/DVD versions. Finally, and I say this every time I watch the film, the depth of field enabled by the use of wide-angle lenses is amazing.

John Bernhard
04-02-2015, 10:28 AM
I never even picked up on the fact they were different takes, I just thought Fulci re-used that scene for a jolting opener.
Almost seems too subtle/artisitc for Fulci to try and go for the 'lying flashback' angle but you may be right in this.

Alex K.
04-02-2015, 10:45 AM
I noticed it on a re-watch a few years ago. I think it does imply that Menard is lying. There's also Olga's general hostility towards Menard and threatening to tell the natives what he's really up to.

You could say it's a subplot that goes nowhere but you could say the same thing about the origin of the zombies. We're never given a reason why they've come back but it is hinted that Menard had something to do with it.

slizwiz
04-28-2015, 01:59 PM
We talked about Manhattan Baby on the podcast. Check it out!

http://hellodoomedshow.podomatic.com/

Alex K.
04-28-2015, 07:47 PM
Manhattan Baby was a film that no one wanted to make. And it shows. Fabrizio DeAngelis forced the project to go on to cash in on the Exorcist and it's a very 'meh' picture with one or two good moments, a nice dark ending, and a few (very few) original bits of original music by Fabio Frizzi that's among his best.

This lead to Fulci walking away from DeAngelis, making Murderrock and Conquest, both projects flopped and Fulci fell into a diabetic coma for a while.

slizwiz
04-29-2015, 07:44 AM
I'm glad that Manhattan Baby got made. Murderrock is a good one. Conquest is something else entirely. Not surprised they flopped at all.

Alex K.
04-29-2015, 09:27 AM
Fulci said Conquest was a big hit in Mexico. Conquest is a definite guilty pleasure of mine, a lot to enjoy. Wookies fighting cavemen armed with stone nunchucks, psychedelic visuals. gore, a topless Euro babe with a silver mask, an interesting twist at the end, zombies and spider people.

Fun flick. It's probably the best of the Conan ripoffs from that time. Either that or Beastmaster or Deathstalker 2.

slizwiz
04-29-2015, 10:37 AM
Oh yeah, Alex, so much good cheese in there. Those furry nunchucks and the poor actors in those werewolf/Wookie costumes. But it's the soft focus really puts me off. A sequence or two, sure. But the whole movie!?

Alex K.
04-29-2015, 11:09 AM
The soft focus never bothered. It's a B movie way of appearing otherworldly. But you're not the first to be put off by it, I've heard from other people that the soft focus puts them to sleep.

Tom Clark
04-29-2015, 12:57 PM
I like Manhattan Baby. I've probably said this before here but I think if anything holds it back its that the overwhelming sense of apocalypse that defined films like City of the Living Dead and The Beyond are missing from it. Sure the ending is nice and ominous but for the majority of the film the curse affects just the one family rather than a "today New York, tomorrow the world!" type of feeling. The same thing happened with Demonia where the threat of the nuns was isolated to the one village. Its a minor quibble for me though. I think the film still has plenty of the Fulci irrationality making it a wonderfully surreal watch. The scene where the sons bedroom turns into a desert landscape is brilliantly executed, the bird attack is tons of fun and the main theme is excellent. Death/doom metal band Hooded Menace do a great cover of it.

Paul L
04-29-2015, 05:48 PM
Oh yeah, Alex, so much good cheese in there. Those furry nunchucks and the poor actors in those werewolf/Wookie costumes. But it's the soft focus really puts me off.
I think the 'soft focus' look was achieved with a gauze over the lens. Like Alex said, it's a cheap way of establishing a 'fantasy' look that seemed to appear in a number of films of that era, as I recall.

I know CONQUEST has its detractors but I like it a lot. I remember years ago, before the DVD was released, I used our old screening room (kitted out with a at-the-time snazzy digital projector, punchy sound system and a big screen) at work to project my old VHS release. The film's quite an experience on the big screen with its dreamlike visuals and bizarre narrative (I'd love to see a 35mm print), but it doesn't quite work so well when watched in a domestic setting, imo.

killer must kill again
04-30-2015, 12:45 PM
conquest plays out like a video game with different levels! first the hero fights swamp zombies, after that some furry wookies in the mountains, on the way he receives the magic bow and finally faces the endboss: a nude snake woman with a golden mask!

Alex K.
04-30-2015, 12:51 PM
That would have been an awesome NES game. Even the poster looks like an old school video game cover.

http://criticalmassesmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/conquest_poster_01.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/60/Wizards_and_Warriors_NES_cover.jpg

killer must kill again
04-30-2015, 01:20 PM
I think there's even fog at the beginning and the end of each scene. the whole concept of "heading to the next stage" seems to be really obvious!

slizwiz
04-30-2015, 02:38 PM
good call, killer must kill again!

Ian Jane
06-17-2015, 09:33 AM
So it looks like that French Lizard Blu is going to be a pretty stacked SE and English friendly at that.

http://www.luciofulci.fr/sorties-blu-ray-dvd/exclusif-le-venin-de-la-peur-supplements-et-couverture-reveles

And now it's up for pre-order in a few different versions:

http://lechatquifumedvd.com/en/

I think the basic one will do me fine:

1971 / 1h42 / 16.9 / 1.85 / COLOR
BLU-RAY/DVD/CD COMBO – DIGIPACK 3 PANELS WITH SLIPCASE

High Definition Blu-ray (1080p/ Region free) presentation
English, Italien and French soundtracks in DTS HD ORIGINAL MONO
French subtitles for the Italien and English audio (Removable Subtitles)
English subtitles for the Italian audio (Removable Subtitles)

Standard Definition DVD (Region free) presentation
English, Italian and French soundtracks in AC3 ORIGINAL MONO
French subtitles for the italien and english audio (Removable Subtitles)
English subtitles for the italien audio (Removable Subtitles)

CD: Soundtrack by Ennio Morricone (19 tracks / 84 minutes)

EXTRAS (more than 3 hours)

Featuring brand new interviews with
- Anita Strindberg (english subs)
- Jean Sorel
- Lionel Grenier (english subs)
- Olivier Père (Arte)
- Jean-François Rauger (French Cinematheque)
- Alain Schlockoff (L’Ecran Fantastique)
- Christophe Gans (Silent Hill)
– THE LIFES OF LUCIO FULCI by Lionel Grenier
– LUCIO FULCI AND CENSORSHIP by Lionel Grenier
- DELETED SCENE
– THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS
– AMERICAN AND ITALIAN ALTERNATE CREDITS
– LIZARD IN A WOMAN’S SKIN : FRENCH VHS VERSION
– US AND FRENCH TRAILERS

+ 24 pages booklet only during pre-orders.

...but if you want lobby cards and pressbooks and stuff, give the link a click and check it out.

Ian Jane
06-17-2015, 09:33 AM
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Clive Smith
06-17-2015, 10:42 AM
I've gone for the basic option too - don't need the stoopid cards and stuff. I couldn't see any info on when it's due to start shipping though... any idea?

Paul L
06-17-2015, 01:11 PM
Ordered. Clive, it says 'in stock' (apparently, there's also an order tracking feature on the website that I've not attempted to use) so hopefully should ship soonish.

Clive Smith
06-17-2015, 01:56 PM
Thanks, Paul. I was too dumb and lazy to see that.

Hope the disc is as good as it looks. Did you spring for all the overpriced tat?

Paul L
06-17-2015, 03:23 PM
Thanks, Paul. I was too dumb and lazy to see that.

Hope the disc is as good as it looks. Did you spring for all the overpriced tat?
Nah, much as I loves me some overpriced tat, 'er indoors would kill me if (a) she saw how much it cost, and (b) she saw a great big package drop through the letterbox. (I ordered a large format photobook the other day, and caught the postman before it was delivered, smuggling it in like contraband.) She might even kill me if she sees the barebones BD drop through the letterbox, but I'm willing to take that risk; I can always say I'm selling my DVD copies of the film to make space for it.

Clive Smith
06-17-2015, 04:20 PM
Pecked by a hen!
Same boat, but I've managed to seduce 'er indoors to peep most of the stuff I'm ordering, which helps a bucketload.

s.chivers
06-17-2015, 04:30 PM
Apparently Arrow have another Fulci's in the works, which I'm hoping is either Lizard or Perversion Story.

Clive Smith
06-17-2015, 05:02 PM
Well, now that I've stumped up for the French disc of LIAWS, I hope it's PS.

Paul L
06-17-2015, 05:20 PM
Place your bets, please, ladies and gen'men!

I'm wondering if it could be one of the Westerns - eg, FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE or MASSACRE TIME. Perhaps MANHATTAN BABY or THE BLACK CAT. CONTRABAND would be my preference.

Lalala76
06-18-2015, 04:37 AM
Having just ordered the French Lizard in a Womans skin, I seriously hope Arrow don't release this next. I love Arrow and would have bought Lizard from them in a heartbeat, but please not now!!

Ian Jane
06-21-2015, 09:42 AM
A FB post indicates that they've sold enough copies on preorder that they're now able to include the soundtrack.

Ian Jane
07-06-2015, 09:44 AM
Mondo Macabro just announced that they'll be releasing Lizard In A Woman's Skin on Blu-ray later this year, details to come as they're available.

Derrick King
07-06-2015, 11:48 AM
Mondo Macabro just announced that they'll be releasing Lizard In A Woman's Skin on Blu-ray later this year, details to come as they're available.
Nice! They also confirmed that they'll be using the same master (the restored StudioCanal master.)

John Bernhard
07-06-2015, 12:49 PM
Great news, great Fulci!
Glad to have another option on this title, as I was not anxious to financially support the French company releasing as they ripped off several Vinegar Syndrome transfers. :down:

Ian Jane
07-25-2015, 11:38 AM
Rad poster from Cigarette Burns.

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Alex K.
07-25-2015, 02:03 PM
That is classy as fuck.

Paul L
08-05-2015, 10:23 AM
The French LIZARD... Blu-ray arrived today.

That's this evening's viewing sorted out, then :)

Clive Smith
08-05-2015, 10:34 AM
Mine too. Some of the extras aren't subbed, but the image quality is lovely and the soundtrack CD was welcome (can't believe I hadn't picked that up before now).

Lalala76
08-05-2015, 11:37 AM
Yeah Mine arrived too

Lalala76
08-06-2015, 06:14 PM
Wow, the Lizard transfer is excellent. Very happy

Tom Clark
08-14-2015, 06:19 PM
Fresh off a long overdue revisit of Four of the Apocalypse. Anyone else feel like they've been hit by a bus after this ones over? Perhaps I've just been more moody as of late but this is the most powerful its ever felt to me. Knowing how Lynne Frederick ended up in later life also helps to make Bunny all the more tragic. Both Thomas Milan and Fabio Testi believed Fulci to be depressed or "sufferin" as Milan put it and that makes sense while watching this. Speaking of, Milan is one BAD motherfucker here. Chaco is truly frightening.

Alex K.
08-14-2015, 06:28 PM
Four of the Apocalypse came out not long after his wife's suicide I think. I'm not a big fan of Westerns but I really like this one. Totally unique film that's probably a masterpiece.

Cinematic Shocks
08-27-2015, 08:32 AM
With the exceptions of the solid ‘City of the Living Dead’ and his follow-up one of my favourite Italian horror films ‘The Beyond’, I’ve always considered Lucio Fulci to be mostly overrated as a horror filmmaker proper. I think all four of his earlier gialli are great but I think ‘Zombi’ is overrated being only half as good as any of George A. Romero’s original zombie trilogy and everything he made post-Beyond that I’ve seen is either mediocre or outright awful. When Fulci structured his films to create an experience purely in nightmarish gory imagery encapsulated in a powerful atmosphere paying no attention to cohesive narratives and building suspense and tension it works very well. But when he tried to actually tell horror stories that requires careful pacing and suspense and tension built up through their narratives he fell flat every time. Lucio Fulci knew how to stage great set-pieces and generate electrifying atmosphere in horror but knew very little about pacing, suspense, and tension.

Ian Jane
10-02-2015, 09:16 AM
Swiping this from FB:

14055

14056

Weird mangled translation....

'84-DON' T TORTURE a duck ling-never hurt a child to the joke

From 20.11.2015, we deliver the following title to traders from:

Don ' T TORTURE a duck ling-never hurt a child to the joke (non si sevizia un paperino, Director: Lucio Fulci, 1972-Italy)

A little sleepy village in Southern Italy is a great horror shook up. The little Bruno is dead and bestial prepared by the police found. Immediately, the inhabitants in a hysteria and you first suspected of the well-known outsiders guiseppe and later also as the voodoo witch burn maciara markets. An angry mobb moves through the city, past a harried police force. As soon then further young missing and found dead, see the inhabitants and the police in utter helplessness and start quickly about any suspicious don't judge. Who is the killer and who will stop him? A race against time, spun from suspicion and doubt, begins!

Lucio Fulci has never " don't bother with a child to the joke..." One of his best films, delivered under all known gialli. One of the most serchead and rarest films of the Italian genre cinemas, for the first time in German synced and in high definition restored.

1. Disc 1 (Blu-ray)
Picture: 2.35:1-24 p 1080 P Full HD
Clay: German Dts-HD MA 2.0, English DTS-HD MA 1.0 with fixed dt. UT, ITALIAN DTS-HD MA 1.0 with fixed dt. UT
Barrel Length: approx. 109 min.
Bonus: Audio Commentary with Marcus Stig Legger, German trailer, original trailer, Italian header, Italian credits, restoration comparison, slideshow

2. Disc 2 (DVD)
Bild: 2.35:1 16:9 PAL Widescreen
Clay: German Dolby Digital 2.0, English, Dolby Digital 2.0 with fixed dt. UT, Italian Dolby Digital 2.0 with fixed dt. UT
Barrel Length: approx. 104 min.
Bonus: Audio Commentary with Marcus Stig Legger, German trailer, original trailer, Italian header, Italian credits, restoration comparison, slideshow

3. Disc 3 (Bonus-DVD)
Interviews with cinematographer Sergio D ' formal and cutter Bruno Micheli-Italian with DT. UT.

4. Disc 4 (Soundtrack CD)

Art-No.: 8731 ma
Ean: 4260207722297

Format: Leather Book (made of real wood with Wood Drawer & Brass Handle, with leather, deep and stamping, Lim 1250 Edition, CA. 23 x18x5cm)
Discs: '84

Clive Smith
10-02-2015, 11:04 AM
Blimey! Looks expensive. I think I'll hold out for a release with English subs for the Italian track tho'.

Ian Jane
12-19-2015, 12:19 PM
From the Blue Underground FB page:

"We'll be closed for the next couple weeks to take a much-needed vacation, so we'd like to take this opportunity to wish everyone a very happy holiday season! And to leave you with a little tease, we've just signed the agreement to bring a Lucio Fulci film to Blu-ray in 2016! Happy New Year!!"

John Bernhard
12-19-2015, 12:36 PM
Let's hope it's DUCKLING :)
The German BD is a huge step up.
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=6980&d2=6977

Keeth
12-19-2015, 05:29 PM
Yes, let's hope it's DUCKLING!!!

Nabonga
12-19-2015, 07:00 PM
I'm hoping for La Pretora. That probably won't happen anytime soon, sadly. It needs to be put on Blu ASAP. Great cheeky Edwige/Fulci collaboration.

John Bernhard
12-19-2015, 09:40 PM
I am reading FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE tossed around as a possibility too...which is OK by me...as long as someone gets around to doing the duckling.

Ian Jane
12-20-2015, 10:09 AM
A lot of people are also speculating that it's Conquest. I'd prefer Duckling or Four but, yeah, I admit, I'd be happy with Conquest too.

Scott MacDonald
12-20-2015, 11:32 AM
Jared from MM made a very good point about this anonymous Blue Underground release, and that is we know that Duckling has an existing HD master because of the German release. All BU has to do is secure that for their release. So it could very well be Duckling.

BU has been releasing a lot of spaghetti westerns so that is a strong possibility.

Honestly, there are 4 possibilities from BU, and each one I want on some level (Contraband, Conquest, Duckling, and Four of the Apocalypse).

Damin J. Toell
12-20-2015, 12:10 PM
There's always the possibility that it's not an upgrade from a prior BU DVD. For example, Severin's rights to THE PSYCHIC expired a while back, and there's also an existing HD master out there as seen on the German BD.

John Bernhard
02-11-2016, 03:59 PM
Sadly ( for me anyways ) BU is bringing us
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"We can finally reveal that our next Lucio Fulci Blu-ray upgrade will be... MANHATTAN BABY! We're working on a new 2K restoration from the original negative, as well as producing a bunch of new special features."

Alex K.
02-11-2016, 05:14 PM
Manhattan Baby? Really? I didn't realize it sold that well. I'd take a 3 disc Blu of Conquest over this.

Tom Clark
02-11-2016, 08:09 PM
That Eye of the Evil Dead poster art is so great. Surely it has to belong on the top 10 most misleading poster art list? Then again, the actual title "Manhattan Baby" isn't really all that representative of the film either is it? I really like the film but it does seem like an odd choice for BU. The response I've seen so far on Facebook seems fairly positive which sort of surprised me given the films red-headed stepchild treatment over the years.

enandalusiskhund
02-11-2016, 09:16 PM
More Fulci on blu is always a good thing. I feel this is quite underrated, probably because it's so bloodless and came right after his infamous gothic gore films and NY Ripper. Same goes for Murderrock and Black Cat too.

Alex K.
02-11-2016, 09:38 PM
I'm a little surprised because I've never really heard of any truly positive reviews of it from fans of Fulci or Euro-Cult. It's unanimously agreed as being the low point of Fulci's films under Fabrizio DeAngelis.

Terry C
02-11-2016, 11:55 PM
I'm a little surprised because I've never really heard of any truly positive reviews of it from fans of Fulci or Euro-Cult. It's unanimously agreed as being the low point of Fulci's films under Fabrizio DeAngelis.

Same here, though I've never actually seen it to compare to his others. Guess this is a better chance than any to check Manhattan Baby out, but heck, I'd take a 3-disc of the lovely Murder Rock at this point!

JLG
02-12-2016, 12:03 AM
a 3 disc set sounds like a pretty positive review from Bill Lustig.

i enjoyed this one and will gladly upgrade to this

Alex K.
02-12-2016, 02:01 AM
Same here, though I've never actually seen it to compare to his others. Guess this is a better chance than any to check Manhattan Baby out, but heck, I'd take a 3-disc of the lovely Murder Rock at this point!

My advice, go in with low expectations. It has a couple of interesting moments and the typical nihilistic ending that you expect from Fulci, but there isn't much else.

You know what I don't understand? People on the internet don't really seem to like Fulci's The Black Cat very much. Even David Warbeck shat on it a bit which is surprising considering he's been in far worse films. I think the Black Cat is a great throwback to oldschool Gothic horror which was obviously Fulci's intent.

killer must kill again
02-12-2016, 10:56 AM
damn, all hopes "don't torture a duckling" might be the upcoming fulci blu ray title from them chrushed in just a few seconds!

Nabonga
02-13-2016, 11:52 AM
Ugh... this movie blows.

Keeth
02-13-2016, 03:03 PM
I like Fulci's Black Cat a lot, too. I think seeing the trailer peeked my interest so I ordered the dvd years ago & loved it since that first viewing. I sold the dvd & bought Arrow's Poe set. I haven't watched the second film yet. I love the stalking scenes in TBC; I think it's a great testament as to why people shouldn't own cats :biggrin:

Dom D
02-13-2016, 04:41 PM
I was rewatching Don't Torture A Duckling yesterday. I've long ranked it as one of the top 10 gialli but in truth I haven't seen it since Anchor Bay released their first DVD of it back 15 odd years ago. I was surprised to be a little disappointed on a rewatch. Thematically it's still one of the most complex and interesting of the gialli but the storytelling is lacking. We've got two reasonably interesting protagonists in Bouchet and the reporter with the magnificent pornstache when they decide to team up and solve the crime but the problem is the movie is 75 minutes into it's runtime before they get together. Up till then it's really unfocused. We spend a lot of time with the cops but Fulci doesn't bother to make them characters. Obviously they are seen just as foils to our leads but our leads are barely there.. Anyway... found it a struggle second time at bat.

Dark Horse 77
02-13-2016, 07:27 PM
a 3 disc set sounds like a pretty positive review from Bill Lustig.

i enjoyed this one and will gladly upgrade to this

So I'm guessing it will be a dvd, blu ray and cd soundtrack?

enandalusiskhund
02-13-2016, 08:17 PM
That's a safe bet considering the logos on the cover. Excellent presentation considering the awesome soundtrack. Hope BU pay for decent mastering this time, seeing that their other releases of Italian films on blu have been pretty hit and miss in this regard.

Alex K.
02-15-2016, 05:07 PM
I tried re-watching Manhattan Baby. I haven't seen it in at least a decade or more. The opening is okay, it has the usual Fulci tropes you expect and there's some okay gore in the beginning. I had to stop watching it because of the sound effects used on the snakes in the movie. Sometimes when I watch a movie my cat freaks out when there's an animal noise. Usually he becomes more guarded and tries to look for the source of the noise while growling. This time, the snake noise in Manhattan Baby, freaked him out. He was standing up and scared for a good 5-10 minutes. So, I'm going to have to finish it when he's not in the room.

I did end up re-watching Raiders of Atlantis instead and enjoyed it.

Randy G
02-19-2016, 07:37 AM
I was rewatching Don't Torture A Duckling yesterday. I've long ranked it as one of the top 10 gialli but in truth I haven't seen it since Anchor Bay released their first DVD of it back 15 odd years ago. I was surprised to be a little disappointed on a rewatch. Thematically it's still one of the most complex and interesting of the gialli but the storytelling is lacking. We've got two reasonably interesting protagonists in Bouchet and the reporter with the magnificent pornstache when they decide to team up and solve the crime but the problem is the movie is 75 minutes into it's runtime before they get together. Up till then it's really unfocused. We spend a lot of time with the cops but Fulci doesn't bother to make them characters. Obviously they are seen just as foils to our leads but our leads are barely there.. Anyway... found it a struggle second time at bat.

Even Fulci's best films, imo, DUCKLING and FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE are weak in terms of pacing. He was never particularly strong in that area I think.

bgart13
02-19-2016, 11:47 AM
I watched MANHATTAN BABY last night, only the second time I've seen it since I first got the dvd years ago. Not as stupid as I remember it being, and somewhat... classier?... than I recalled too. But still can't touch my faves of Fulci's films. I'm sure I'll still get the bd when it's released.

Dark Horse 77
02-19-2016, 06:51 PM
I watched MANHATTAN BABY last night, only the second time I've seen it since I first got the dvd years ago. Not as stupid as I remember it being, and somewhat... classier?... than I recalled too. But still can't touch my faves of Fulci's films. I'm sure I'll still get the bd when it's released.

The new Blue Underground will need some fantastic extras to make me double dip this one. I'm glad they're still upgrading the old titles, though.

Ian Jane
03-10-2016, 11:09 AM
They Died With Their Boots On (aka Silver Saddle) is getting a German release, supposedly with Eng. options.

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/They-Died-With-Their-Boots-On-Blu-ray/5988/

Bogart
03-10-2016, 11:17 AM
This must be a re-release as they already did a fine Blu of this with English a few years ago which I own.

enandalusiskhund
03-12-2016, 03:32 AM
Yeah, I own it too. It even has a 2009 release date on bluray.com. IIRC the main presentation of the film is a crappy looking DNR'd mess, with a more natural HD presentation, which looks quite good, as an extra.

Ian Jane
03-24-2016, 11:10 AM
From 88s FB page.

Surprise Announcement #4 - For Q3 (DVD and Blu-ray)

#88FILMS_BUCKETLIST

Who says the late great Lucio Fulci had lost his way by the time the Italian horror boom had started to dry out? With 1987's eerie and icky AENIGMA the grand old man of gore shows that he still has guts - churning out a chilling story of telepathic terror in a Boston boarding school for girls. Cheekily taking its cues from Dario Argento's eccentric oddity PHENOMENA (1985), AENIGMA highlights a sinsiter snail attack, a deliciously bloody decapitation and all of the girls and gore that one might expect from a Fulci freakshow! Now remastered in HD, AENIGMA is finally ready to be appreciated as a sublime Italian splatter classic!

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Derrick King
03-24-2016, 12:51 PM
#88FILMS_BUCKETLIST


Oh, man that is some grade A snark right there.

John Bernhard
03-24-2016, 02:42 PM
Gee, aren't 88 a clever bunch.
Can't wait to see what Waddell's input will be :)

Derrick King
03-24-2016, 06:26 PM
From Code Red's facebook page:

CODE RED DVD will no longer use the term BUCKETLIST. UK label 88films is playing dirty and currently stealing our terms. It a small world UK guys, we'll meet one day and I will let you know what I think of you. Refusing to help pay for any HD masters that I created. Real dirty.

Got several new bucketlist announcement. But 88 films killed it stealing my terms.

enandalusiskhund
03-28-2016, 03:44 PM
Oh, FFS. 88 Films should be ashamed for sinking to Code Red's level. Grown men running businesses, acting like little kids. Protip: If you're attacked by a raving lunatic calling you names, the professional, and grown up, thing to do is to JUST WALK AWAY! Absolutely under no circumstances, start with the "No, YOU'RE an idiot" thing. It just makes you look like as much of an asshat as the asshat who attacked you. If not more, since it isn't very nice to insult the mentally disabled.

And don't get me started on the retards on the bluray forum. Protip: The DVD market IS NOT a sports game between team CR and team 88. You don't have to pick a favourite, you don't have to cheer anybody on, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DEFEND ANY LABEL AGAINST ANOTHER LABEL!! These are capitalist ventures. We are consumers. Please don't invest feelings in companies! It just so moronic to see the idiot behaviour from the world of video game fandom and cellphones seep into even this marginalised hobby of ours.

Barry M
03-28-2016, 04:51 PM
We need to grow up and be more like TWILIGHT fans: being Team Edward doesn't mean you don't also have the Jacob PJs.

Alex K.
03-28-2016, 05:01 PM
I don't get it. So, Code Red had a bucket list on FB with a bunch of films they wanted to put out. And 88 Films used the bucket list idea or put out one of the movies (Aenigma) which was on Bill's bucket list?

Maybe it's snark, maybe they're just tired of Bill's BS like everyone else?

John Bernhard
03-28-2016, 06:39 PM
88 Films is like a pilot fish latching onto the bellies of a whale, licencing new transfers that other companies ( Code Red, Camera Obscura ect ) pay for and then paying peanuts to licence the film in the UK.
Their business model isn't illegal but it's sleazy ( to me ) reeks of greed.

Bogart
03-29-2016, 04:31 AM
Seem to me like 88 licence any old shit they can get for cheap because they know the mugs will lap it up. actually, same as Code Red.:howyoudoin:

Alex K.
03-29-2016, 06:46 AM
I can't tell if you guys are being sarcastic or not.

John Bernhard
03-29-2016, 03:09 PM
I'm not...I really do not appreciate the cut of 88's jib.

Derrick King
03-29-2016, 03:48 PM
88 Films is like a pilot fish latching onto the bellies of a whale, licencing new transfers that other companies ( Code Red, Camera Obscura ect ) pay for and then paying peanuts to licence the film in the UK.
Their business model isn't illegal but it's sleazy ( to me ) reeks of greed.

If Bill/Code Red paid for a master, he should own it and thus be under no obligation to share it with 88 Films. He should just tell them no.

enandalusiskhund
03-29-2016, 05:25 PM
I didn't think the label releasing the film necessarily own the master they paid for, or do they? I mean if you pay WB to strike a master from one of their negatives, don't WB still own the rights to that master, unless contractually stipulated otherwise?

Derrick King
03-29-2016, 07:27 PM
Obviously these things vary, but it is my understanding that if a label pays for the creation of a master they own it. For example, MoC/Eureka has said that they'd like to release HOUSE and KWAIDAN on Blu-ray, but the only HD masters for those two films are the ones that Criterion created and they(Criterion) currently are not willing to license their masters.

Keeth
03-30-2016, 01:10 PM
The rights owners that have a say in a new master being made, right? Such as the case with Synapse & Tenebrae- they were not allowed to do a new scan so they used the French master & then corrected some of its issues. That's what was said on another forum so I have no idea if it's correct.

I would think that would be a way to save some money (using an existing scan) but add better extras or improve on the scan, if it's possible. I would think the company that licenses out their master would want some sort of credit given as well.

Derrick King
03-30-2016, 06:09 PM
The rights owners that have a say in a new master being made, right? Such as the case with Synapse & Tenebrae- they were not allowed to do a new scan so they used the French master & then corrected some of its issues. That's what was said on another forum so I have no idea if it's correct.


Yes, especially as you have to get access to the materials and they can always say yes or no. Synapse wanted to access the materials to create their own scan but the licensor would not let them. (If, for some reason, the licensor did not control the original materials, or if Synapse had access to better materials, I think it is possible that Synapse could have done a new scan without their permission, but it is generally not a good idea to piss off the right's holder/licensor.)

Keeth
04-01-2016, 01:59 PM
I find the whole rights thing very interesting. Would there happen to be another thread that goes into detail on how one goes about tracking down rights for obscure films then finding elements? I know I've read that rights owners do not always have a copy of the film so do a lot of companies take chances that they'll find elements after paying for the rights? Also, why are owners of Italian films wanting so much for them? What good does it do to demand a price no one will pay? Seems like they'd have to lower the price after getting turned down if they actually want to make some dough on the films they own.

Derrick King
04-01-2016, 02:16 PM
Keeth, while it is a loooong thread (150 pages), the Vinegar Syndrome thread might cover some of those topics (http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/showthread.php?3826-The-Vinegar-Syndrome-Discussion-Thread).

Ian Jane
04-27-2016, 09:17 AM
From BU's FB page:

"Just had our first QC of the new MANHATTAN BABY 2K scan. This one should be out in the Fall. We'll announce full details soon, including the list of amazing new Extras produced for our Limited Edition release!"

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Alex K.
05-03-2016, 04:45 PM
I finally watched Silver Saddle and I thought it was okay. I'm not a fan of Westerns so I didn't get a lot out of it but I thought it was a well made flick. Sad that Fulci's non-horror career ended with the failure of Silver Saddle and the Psychic.

Dark Horse 77
05-03-2016, 06:30 PM
From BU's FB page:

"Just had our first QC of the new MANHATTAN BABY 2K scan. This one should be out in the Fall. We'll announce full details soon, including the list of amazing new Extras produced for our Limited Edition release!"

15303

Those extras would really have to be amazing to get me to buy this one again. I suspect I'm not alone in this.

Alex K.
07-03-2016, 11:31 AM
What title do you prefer? City of the Living Dead or Gates of Hell?

I kind of have to go with Gates of Hell. It's a more accurate title (since Dunwich isn't a city) and it doesn't feel derivative of any other Living Dead titled film.

Cinematic Shocks
07-03-2016, 11:45 AM
I agree ‘The Gates of Hell’ is more fitting for the reasons you’ve stated although I’m used to calling it ‘City of the Living Dead’. ‘Gates of Hell’ also makes me think of the whole trilogy as that’s its unofficial title.

Alex K.
07-05-2016, 12:42 AM
Internet was down for the most of the day and the cat was outside. So, I decided to re-watch Manhattan Baby as it's been at least a decade since I've last seen it.

Overall; it's bad or at least mediocre but there's still interesting things going on. It almost reaches the level of "fascinating failure" but just almost. The usual Fulci tropes are in full swing and the movie has some great use of framing. The few original pieces of music are superb including a very nice use of the Saxophone. But... What hurts it is the mediocrity surrounding everything else.

Why the fuck is this called "Manhattan Baby?" That is easily the worst title for a Fulci film. What the fuck does that title mean? At least the alternate title "Eye of the Evil Dead" makes sense.

There is an over-use of music from previous De-Angelis produced Fulci films. A few of them, particularly The Beyond, used a few stingers from City of the Living Dead but it was limited to at-most once or twice. This film on the other hand just uses the same City stinger music whenever it feels like it. Plus music from Zombie, The Beyond, and City are re-used constantly. You could make spotting the music from previous films a drinking game.

For some reason, this isn't listed among the other Eyetalian Exorcist ripoffs even though it clearly takes inspiration from the Exorcist. But even then, it doesn't really become an Exorcist ripoff until an hour in.

Christopher Connelly is no Christopher George. I don't hate the man on a personal level and I enjoy Raiders of Atlantis very much. But he lacks personality.

Edit: I just got the title. Manhattan Baby as in Rosemary's Baby. I groaned out loud when I figured that out.

Alex K.
07-06-2016, 08:39 AM
Tried to re-watch Aenigma. It's not very good. The film has a grody look that gives it some palpable sleazy atmosphere but it just fails to deliver. It blows it's load very early on with the snail scene and it never matches that scene afterwards. The snail scene reminded me of the movie Slugs and I decided to re-watch that one instead. I think I made the right choice.

Lalala76
07-25-2016, 04:51 PM
Tried for the third time tonight to watch Cat in the Brain, and I cant get through it. I don't know if I'm just tired but that's on 3 different nights. That's never happened before with a fulci film.

Paul L
07-25-2016, 05:03 PM
Tried for the third time tonight to watch Cat in the Brain, and I cant get through it. I don't know if I'm just tired but that's on 3 different nights. That's never happened before with a fulci film.
It's not just you, Lalala. I've always found that one a bit of a slog, tbh.

Ian Jane
07-25-2016, 05:11 PM
I didn't like it the first time I saw it, but I've warmed up to it at lot over the years.

Alex K.
07-25-2016, 05:12 PM
Cat in the Brain is an interesting one. I have to be in just the right mood to enjoy it.

Ian Jane
09-25-2016, 08:58 AM
From Blue Underground's FB page:

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fatboyslim142
09-27-2016, 07:14 AM
From Blue Underground's FB page:

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When's this being released?

Derrick King
09-27-2016, 11:00 AM
October 25th

Tom Clark
10-19-2016, 07:34 PM
Fulci retrospective at NYC's Anthology Film Archives starting this Friday and going until Halloween. (http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/series/46427)

Bogart
10-21-2016, 02:23 PM
Tried for the third time tonight to watch Cat in the Brain, and I cant get through it. I don't know if I'm just tired but that's on 3 different nights. That's never happened before with a fulci film.

i think thats how its meant to be viewed:biggrin:

you werent expecting a good film were you!

and are you seriously saying you didnt struggle with "The Black Cat"?

Alex K.
10-21-2016, 02:54 PM
The Black Cat is a fine film. It's a great throwback to oldschool gothic horror with some modern Fulci violence thrown in.

Bogart
10-21-2016, 03:11 PM
Really? i thought it was awful. and i like old gothic horrors.

Tom Clark
01-18-2017, 08:42 PM
Anyone ever see Fulci's musicarello Urlatori alla sbarra? I'm sort of obsessed with this Mina tune:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nHEqcRjVm8

Randy G
01-19-2017, 08:12 PM
Too awesome for words.

Ian Jane
02-07-2017, 06:41 PM
These popped up on the Bananman CR page on FB.

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Could there be a new CR edition of City Of The Living Dead in the works?

Alex K.
02-07-2017, 07:01 PM
It's pretty cringey to see Bill fronting that Banana Man bullshit when it comes to one of Fulci's best films.

agent999
02-07-2017, 07:23 PM
Not sure how this is going to sell when it's been out for years already in the US and most other territories. Even if it is a new scan without the noise I doubt everyone's going to upgrade.

Alex K.
02-07-2017, 07:25 PM
There's things he could do in terms of extras. But since Bill is known to browse this forum and attack people from within the confines of his safe space. I'd rather not publicly make suggestions that could aide him in selling units.

enandalusiskhund
02-11-2017, 07:26 PM
I would upgrade if this is a significant change to the better from the BU, actually, since I am a MASSIVE fan of the film. But it'd have to be on the level of the best Fulci editions, like Arrow's Zombi 2. That is: pretty definite. Not willing to upgrade if it's the same from the noisy master, only a bit less noisy. Knowing the fate of House at the Edge in Bill's hands, I'm pretty sure he'll just release what's supplied to him by the Italians.

Tom Clark
03-13-2017, 05:46 PM
21 years ago today the maestro died. Here's a nice poster gallery: https://reprobatemagazine.uk/2017/03/13/gallery-lucio-fulcis-comedies-thrillers-and-westerns/

Keeth
03-13-2017, 07:05 PM
I watched Cat in the Brain last night for the second time since buying the GH dvd set. I only remembered the car crushing scene. I think I'm going to have to buy the GH Blu-ray set. Definitely not a great or even a good movie but I do like it. Super gory, some of it is really nasty like the piano-wire throat slashing & the huge chunk of cheek-flesh hanging off her face when she's bludgeoned with the log. Also, you get the good parts from movies I know I definitely do not need to own (most likely)...

What's the story with the film, Bloody Psycho?

Ian Jane
04-25-2017, 09:34 AM
Another 88 announcement via FB.

"When it comes to Italian splatter flicks, no one is more admired than the late great Lucio Fulci and his 1988 gore-opus TOUCH OF DEATH is seen by many as one of his finest late-era epics! Coming from the same plasma-packed period that also gave audiences Michele Soavi's stylish STAGEFRIGHT (1987) and Ruggero Deodato's madcap BODY COUNT (1987), TOUCH OF DEATH is a similarly splattery slasher-with-giallo-aesthetics that makes no mystery about who the serial-slaughterer actually is. This aspect, however, much like with the aforementioned movies, does not mean that audiences are not treated to a murder-movie unlike any other - with cannibalism, corpses and creative deaths being the flavour of Fulci's uniquely sinister splatter riot. Starring such beloved B-movie names as Brett Halsey (RETURN OF THE FLY) and Al Cliver (ZOMBIE FLESH-EATERS) it is the pleasure of 88 Films to give this underrated but utterly essential Lucio Fulci carnage-cavalcade a UK HD release!"

Alex K.
04-25-2017, 09:39 AM
Touch of Death is pretty good up until the hour mark. There's some great gore and intentional comedy. But right at the hour mark and the introduction of Zora Kerova's character is when the film just dies. It literally dies immediately after Kerova paints over a gigantic Herpes scar with lipstick.

Fulci's best latter day film is still House of Clocks with Voices from Beyond being 2nd.

ropo1
04-26-2017, 06:09 AM
Seems a little ambitious to put it next to Stagefright..

Can't say I remember much about it other than "pretty good", trying to collect Fulci on Bluray it's a given upgrade from the EC Ent. DVD

To me 88 Films seem like one of the more respectable companies out there today when it comes to not caving in to overpricing and limited releases,
so there's another reason to get it.

Would love to see both Devil's Honey and Beatrice Cenci get englishfriendly Bluray releases eventually

Alex K.
04-26-2017, 06:24 AM
I forget to mention (but I think I mentioned this earlier in this thread) but the best reason to get the old Shriek Show/Media Blasters DVD of Touch of Death is the hour long interview with Fulci included on the disc as a sort of commentary.

Tom Clark
04-26-2017, 08:39 AM
Would love to see both Devil's Honey and Beatrice Cenci get englishfriendly Bluray releases eventually
I think Severin announced The Devil's Honey sometime back.

Alex K.
04-26-2017, 08:58 AM
The German Blu of Beatrice Cenci had the English dub. And it's a good dub too.

enandalusiskhund
04-26-2017, 12:39 PM
Is there a German blu of Cenci?! I have an old hartbox DVD, had no idea it's out in HD. Good looking?

ropo1
04-26-2017, 12:40 PM
I think Severin announced The Devil's Honey sometime back.
nice one, had missed this

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btw, can't find any info on any german blu of Beatrice Cenci (what company)? (not on filmaf or blu-ray.com)

Alex K.
04-26-2017, 01:24 PM
Sorry, I fucked up. There is no Blu of Beatrice Cenci.

Ian Jane
06-17-2017, 12:35 PM
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Alex K.
06-17-2017, 01:22 PM
I wonder what extra footage they might find. I've always wanted to see Schweick's reveal (you know, when he appears during the hospital siege and Warbeck takes aim) scored to the Death Chorus track.

For those who might not know:

https://youtu.be/ubrrbuzTLdM?t=8m59s

This track was supposed to play during that scene. But it was changed in editing.

Ian Jane
07-03-2017, 09:37 AM
X-Rated are releasing Four Of The Apocalypse on Blu-ray. No Eng. audio but it is being reported that there will be Eng. subs for the Italian track.

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Lalala76
07-03-2017, 12:38 PM
More info:


Lucio Fulci´s
Damn to live - damn to die

Eurocult-Collection #34

Mediabook (Dvd+Blu-Ray)

Cover a limited and numbered to 444 copies
Ean 4260252115822

Cover B Limited and numbered to 444 copies
Ean 4260252115839

Cover C Limited and numbered to 222 copies
Ean 4260252115846

The Four Horsemen of the apocalypse are the cheater stubby Preston, the pregnant whore bunny, the drinker clem and the mentally insane bud. Together they can escape from the prison of a city that is full of vigilante justice. On The Prairie, they are now looking for food, water and shelter. For a while, they are accompanied by outlaw chaco, who eventually turns out to be a sadistic sadist. He puts them on drugs and leaves them helpless in the desert. Stubby swears bloody revenge. Together, they continue their difficult journey, searching for the of civilization and the sadistic tormentor.

One of the best and toughest italo westerns of all time staged by Legend Lucio Fulci as HD World Premiere!

Equipment:
- Italian full original version with German subtitles
-, by Pelle, and Oliver nöding
- to bra rum-HD-film "Marcia Ras end"
- Tebnbrarum-HD film "Lucio Fulcis way to splatter icon"
- Pelle, about Lucio Fulci (HD film)
- German trailer
- interview with fabio frizzi "music of the apocalypse"
- Promotional Material (Gallery)
- English trailer
- German cinema header
- to bra rum booklet with 16 pages of Martin's legs
- credits without credits
- to bra rum-HD-film "Fulci - the tender man for the rough"

Format: 1.85:1 /16:9 / 1080p / 24fps
Language: German, Italian
Subtitles: German, English
Duration: 105 minutes

August 2017

Tom Clark
07-24-2017, 07:40 PM
Art/Form: Fulci's Brush with Death (https://www.filmcomment.com/blog/artform-fulcis-brush-death/)

Alex K.
07-24-2017, 07:52 PM
Good stuff. Hope you don't mind me Tweeting that link.

Tom Clark
07-24-2017, 10:08 PM
Good stuff. Hope you don't mind me Tweeting that link.
Well I swiped it from someone on FB so I'd be in no position to judge :haha:

enandalusiskhund
07-25-2017, 03:24 AM
I enjoyed your link Tom Clark. Fulci's films lend themselves well to serious critical analysis, even though they're easily misstaken for being "trash" (which they in some capacity also are, in itself not a bad thing either, of course). Argento has always been the critical darling of Italian horror, but in my opinion Fulci, and especially his and Dardano Sacchetti's cycle of surreal gothic horror films from the early 80's, is thematically and aesthetically more interesting than most of Argento's work.

I really like the Cover A version of X Rated's Four of the Apocalypse. Apparently the label has been working on it for two years, and with X Rated's recent track record, this should be a good release. Very tempted.

Tom Clark
08-05-2017, 04:35 PM
Mondo review (http://mondo-digital.com/touchdeath.html) of the 88 release of Touch of Death.

Alex K.
08-11-2017, 02:25 AM
Upon re-watching Voices From Beyond the thought occurred to me that it was intentionally autobiographical. I forget if Stephen Thrower made the same inference in his pretentious tome or not. But the film does have some resemblance to Fulci's life at the time: an ailing father (Fulci), aided by his loyal daughter (Camilla), poisoned by a deceitful clan (the Italian film industry) and through his family he finds his peace and will avenge himself after death...

A little eerie when you think about it. It was obviously a very personal film for Lucio because just before the end credits he gives thanks to his friend Clive Barker and an Italian film critic who championed his work.

Voices From Beyond is an okay film. Not a terrible way to end a career.

Paul L
08-11-2017, 03:40 AM
Upon re-watching Voices From Beyond the thought occurred to me that it was intentionally autobiographical. I forget if Stephen Thrower made the same inference in his pretentious tome or not. But the film does have some resemblance to Fulci's life at the time: an ailing father (Fulci), aided by his loyal daughter (Camilla), poisoned by a deceitful clan (the Italian film industry) and through his family he finds his peace and will avenge himself after death...
I remember thinking something similar the last time I watched this one.

It's not his finest hour, but I like VOICES FROM BEYOND quite a lot. The final sequence is weak but on the whole I think it's an interesting film.

Derrick King
08-26-2017, 07:09 PM
Severin's THE DEVIL'S HONEY Blu-ray is coming out on September 26th
http://images2.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/187819_medium.jpghttp://images4.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/187820_medium.jpg

NEW 2K RESTORATION of the film
FULLY UNCUT PRESENTATION of the film
The Devil's Halsey: An Interview with Actor Brett Halsey
Wild Flower: An Interview With Actress Corinne Cléry
Producing Honey: An Interview With Producer Vincenzo Salviani
The Devil's Sax: An Interview With Composer Claudio Natili
Stephen Thrower on The Devil's Honey
Fulci's Honey: An Audio Essay by Troy Howarth – Author of "Splintered Visions – Lucio Fulci And His Films"
Alternate Opening
Trailer

Alex K.
08-26-2017, 08:01 PM
https://twitter.com/NWR_pic/status/901366915146362881

Ian Jane
08-27-2017, 10:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wobkXQO9vt0

enandalusiskhund
08-27-2017, 11:21 PM
I have not seen this film, but I'll be first in line for the pre-order. Looks awesome.

enandalusiskhund
08-27-2017, 11:41 PM
Well not first in line. Severin are charging $16 for international shipping, WITH NO WAY ADD IN STOCK ITEMS TO THE ORDER! What the hell? Pre-orders must be purchased separately, for some idiotic reason.

Alex K.
08-27-2017, 11:54 PM
I have not seen this film, but I'll be first in line for the pre-order. Looks awesome.

I'd read reviews first. I think Devil's Honey is one of Fulci's absolute worst. I'd rank it alongside Sodom's Ghost.

enandalusiskhund
08-28-2017, 02:57 AM
And here I thought this would be a hidden masterpiece.

Dark Horse 77
08-28-2017, 07:39 AM
Severin's THE DEVIL'S HONEY Blu-ray is coming out on September 26th
http://images2.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/187819_medium.jpghttp://images4.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/187820_medium.jpg

NEW 2K RESTORATION of the film
FULLY UNCUT PRESENTATION of the film
The Devil's Halsey: An Interview with Actor Brett Halsey
Wild Flower: An Interview With Actress Corinne Cléry
Producing Honey: An Interview With Producer Vincenzo Salviani
The Devil's Sax: An Interview With Composer Claudio Natili
Stephen Thrower on The Devil's Honey
Fulci's Honey: An Audio Essay by Troy Howarth – Author of "Splintered Visions – Lucio Fulci And His Films"
Alternate Opening
Trailer


Looks awesome, also on DVD.

Ian Jane
08-28-2017, 09:44 AM
Here's a better look at the cover art (slipcover, and both reversible options).

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Bogart
08-28-2017, 11:46 AM
So is the slipcover limited to the first 1,000,000 copies or something ? (i jest) But have they announced a number on it or how to get it? Its a nice bit of cardboard so id order early if it was limited but i wouldnt order it direct from Severin i dont think.

Ian Jane
08-28-2017, 01:41 PM
Here's the full press release that indicates it is limited to 1000 pcs.

Lucio Fulci’s Extreme Erotic Shocker
Now Uncut, Uncensored & Restored
For The First Time Ever In America
On September 26th, Severin Films honors the Euro-Horror gods by offering up a lesser known masterwork by genre stalwart Lucio Fulci. Open wide, because THE DEVIL’S HONEY is dripping onto home video in a sweeter form than ever before, bursting with the robust flavors of perversion and degeneracy that only sinners with the most refined palates will be able to truly appreciate. Each copy of the movie comes with reversible cover art and a limited, numbered edition slipcase (1,000) is available exclusively from the Severin webstore.

In perhaps his most rarely seen film, Godfather Of Gore Lucio Fulci takes on the erotic thriller genre and unleashes the ultimate onslaught of glossy depravity: Brett Halsey (DEMONIA, THE RETURN OF THE FLY), Corinne Cléry (THE STORY OF O, MOONRAKER) and Blanca Marsillach star in this insane S&M saga complete with sodomy, torture, torrid romance, rampant nudity and a jaw-dropping cavalcade of kink that Beyond Terror: The Films of Lucio Fulci calls “Demented and hot…good sleazy fun and perhaps Fulci’s last truly enjoyable film.” Stefano Madia (BODY COUNT), Bernard Seray (HELL OF THE LIVING DEAD) and Fulci himself co-star in this skintastic sickie – also known as DANGEROUS OBSESSION – newly scanned from the original negative and transferred in HD for the first time ever.

Severin Hall Of Fame Enamel Pin #1: Lucio Fulci

Severin Films has once again collaborated with the fine folks of Pseudo Ludo to introduce fans to the Severin Films Hall of Fame Directors series of enamel pins, starting with the Godfather of Gore himself, Lucio Fulci. Here is a mock-up design of the amazing Fulci, inspired by his cameo appearance in The Devil’s Honey:

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Keeth
08-28-2017, 02:11 PM
Is The Devil's Honey any good? The trailer looks interesting but is it just all of the good scenes & the rest is crap?

Bogart
08-28-2017, 03:00 PM
Each copy of the movie comes with reversible cover art and a limited, numbered edition slipcase (1,000) is available exclusively from the Severin webstore.


Thanks! Looks like im not getting the slipcase then unless im lucky and diabolik gets it.. Oh well. The regular cover is not too bad. And its the disc im worried about anyway.

Bogart
08-28-2017, 03:01 PM
Is The Devil's Honey any good? The trailer looks interesting but is it just all of the good scenes & the rest is crap?

Dont know, never seen it. But with these european genre films its best to make youre own mind up anyway i find. So ill buy it. And i even half enjoyed Cat in the Brain.

Keeth
08-28-2017, 03:13 PM
I like Cat in the Brain but haven't upgraded (I have been checking for used copies on eBay) & a review for D.H. from someone would help me to decided to jump on an early order or wait for a few months. I rather like that 3rd cover option...

Bogart
08-28-2017, 03:34 PM
If youre just after rough guide imdb has some opinions

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090903/

John Bernhard
08-28-2017, 03:43 PM
I am not a fan.
Vaguely remember there was a BlockBuster R rated version that toned down a sex...errrr, I mean sax scene.

Tom Clark
08-28-2017, 04:05 PM
And here I thought this would be a hidden masterpiece.
It is. If Fulci ever directed a film that could be considered a “love story” than The Devil’s Honey would be it. Its also a film that might make those who’ve thrown the tired misogynist label at Fulci think twice. Its very much a film that has its cake and eats it too, offering up a more than healthy amount of sleaze (including that famous sax scene which is glorious) but along with it presents an involving story of damaged lives, sadomasochism, dominant/submissive relationships, a dead end marriage and role reversal and ends on an ambiguous note that's both touching as it is unsettling.

Paul L
08-28-2017, 04:29 PM
I really like CAT IN THE BRAIN, but hey-ho. DEVIL'S HONEY is not great but it's far from Fulci's worst, imo. It's about on par with MURDER ROCK, I'd say. It's atypical of a Fulci film - if that even means anything vis a vis this director's non-cohesive filmography. Tom sums up its strengths in a manner in which I'd agree. It's got some very ardent fans, and I can see the appeal, but it's not a film I return to very often. I'm not sure I'd recommend it as a 'blind buy' - that would depend on the price, imo.

Bogart
08-29-2017, 05:49 AM
Murder Rock is a well made film , so if this is equal to that i should be happy making a blind purchase. if im going to watch a film may as well check it out in the best quality. Did Devil's Honey get released previously on dvd?

Alex K.
08-29-2017, 05:52 AM
I need to re-watch Murder Rock before I weigh in. I remember the opening kill. I remember a few other things. But that's about it. I do remember thinking it was a confused film that didn't know what it wanted to be. It was easily the last Fulci film to enjoy relatively high production values.

Tom Clark
08-29-2017, 06:43 AM
Did Devil's Honey get released previously on dvd?
Yeah there was a Chinese DVD that may or may not have been legitimate and an Italian only DVD.

Ian Jane
08-31-2017, 04:29 PM
If you want that Devil's Honey slipcover there are only 150 or so left at the Severin Store at the time of this writing.

enandalusiskhund
08-31-2017, 09:57 PM
Yowza, people sure like their slipcovers. Other label sells 1000 copies in three days. Here's a slipcover featuring Mark Shannon's warty balls.

Alex K.
09-01-2017, 06:08 AM
I re-watched Murder Rock and it is... Average I guess is the best way to describe it. It does have nice camera work, lighting, usual Fulci tropes and his usual actors that pop up. But as a Giallo it's just so toothless. To use an Eyetalian food analogy; it's like eating plain pasta. That might be fine but it's just so bland. You just want to throw on some Parmesan and definitely some sauce. And this movie definitely needed sauce. Not that it needed to be a gore fest but the kills were just so "Meh." Just incredibly "Meh." And that's partly why we watch Giallos, we watch them for the highly stylized kills. And again, it didn't need gore, it just needed some imagination.

Just look at Bava's Blood and Black Lace: it doesn't have gore but it does have stylistic kills that still hold up.

Matt H.
09-01-2017, 10:56 AM
I picked up a used copy of the BU DVD of MANHATTAN BABY; I only watched it once many years ago and remember being bored, but I thought I'd give it another chance.

Derrick King
09-01-2017, 10:58 AM
Yowza, people sure like their slipcovers. Other label sells 1000 copies in three days. Here's a slipcover featuring Mark Shannon's warty balls.
:funny:

Ya know what? I think I'd respect Bill if he actually had the balls to do that.

ropo1
09-02-2017, 04:46 AM
And here I thought this would be a hidden masterpiece.
Imo you can keep some expectations up, personally id put it on the level of Contraband, Voices from Beyond and White Fang (thinking about it, id even call it 'best of late fulci')

It's simply a polarizing film, sleaze vs. non-sleaze enthusiasts

As for the in the thread mentioned Hk dvd, pretty sure that was a bootleg even though the packaging was neat.
Remember getting it from hkflix and kind of regret selling it, as i've never seen it being sold elsewhere, now that's not an issue though

It's just stupid they decided to put the best looking cover on the slip, not paying extra for flimflam

enandalusiskhund
09-03-2017, 02:45 AM
The slip edition is sold out from Severin but Diabolik has it up for pre-order. I'm a bit ashamed, as I don't want to pay extra for cardboard either, but I actually bought it. It's just so nice looking. The saxophone, the fanny, the red colour. Something to display proudly for generations to come.

Bogart
09-03-2017, 12:07 PM
Damn you! Im having to go without:nono:

Darcy Parker
09-03-2017, 04:50 PM
Sax sells, apparently.

enandalusiskhund
09-07-2017, 05:26 PM
So I believe Four of the Apocalypse is out now on BD. You guys seen any impressions anywhere? It costs a whopping €35, so it better be near perfect.

Alex K.
10-07-2017, 07:49 PM
A lovely lady on Twitter posted the last interview Fulci did:

https://i.imgur.com/Hjdj5QA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vtkqF42.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/enQT8xU.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BTiUTwk.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MHu0EoI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/W0Z37ye.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FpPxTRl.jpg

Dark Horse 77
10-07-2017, 07:54 PM
Ahhh, back when I used to have a subscription to Fangoria. I probably still have this one somewhere.

Paul L
10-08-2017, 05:16 AM
I remember that issue. I may still have it someplace. Thanks for posting, Alex :)

enandalusiskhund
10-16-2017, 10:53 PM
I thought Devil's Honey was a nice little sleaze effort by Fulci. Makes me wish he would've directed more films in the genre.

Heads up to those who, like me, prefer to watch these films with the Italian language track: This is another dubtitle release by Severin. A frustrating watch.

Alex K.
11-09-2017, 07:20 AM
I just noticed your post. Fulci did co-write another Erotic film:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091097/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_13

I tried to watch but I can't remember anything about it or if it was even in English. And of course he made erotic comedies like The Eroticist and Dracula in the Provinces.

agent999
11-09-2017, 07:52 AM
I used to have The Trap on VHS. Not very good, but The Devil's Honey shares some of its DNA. This one has the other Marsillach sister as well, but nothing like Blanca's jaw dropping performance in Honey. That made the film for me.

Ian Jane
12-22-2017, 11:18 AM
Walt posted this on br.com:

"FYI, PSYCHIC and GATES OF HELL uncolor corrected 4k scan is heading onto my colorist now from Italy on a drive, and we will be grading the color and speaking with historians for how they feel the color scheme should be, to ensure these will look the best they ever looked."

Alex K.
12-22-2017, 03:53 PM
A City Of The Living Dead restoration has me interested. I'm pretty sure that's the only film Fulci shot on 16 MM. The grain is definitely an indicator of this I think.

Keeth
12-22-2017, 04:08 PM
What does it mean "on a drive"? Is it a hard drive because the files are so large or something completely different?

Ian Jane
12-22-2017, 04:11 PM
What does it mean "on a drive"? Is it a hard drive because the files are so large or something completely different?

Yep. It's a digital transfer so it's probably on a giant hard drive.

Keeth
12-22-2017, 04:52 PM
I wondered how they send film files. Originally thought they'd just put'em on dvd-r's. Guess they're too big to send from wetransfer.

I'll definitely pick up CotLD as I still only have the BU dvd, which, I think looks pretty good. I remember seeing ad's for Gates of Hell and Zombie in my local newspaper. Big as hell, too! Hard to believe those films played here back then but I had no one to take me to them.

Alex K.
01-02-2018, 05:32 PM
Very good interview with Dardano Sacchetti here:

https://houseoffreudstein.wordpress.com/2018/01/02/murder-he-wrote-an-exclusive-interview-with-dardano-sacchetti/

A lot of interesting things being said but I don't think I believe his claim that Fulci had never seen a horror film before making Zombie. Zombie is too well directed and hits all the right notes for it to have been directed by someone who had never seen a horror film before. Fulci himself said that he took inspiration from I Walked with a Zombie.

Plus the article shows this pre-release material for The Beyond that has an entirely different synopsis:

https://i.imgur.com/KA0reLP.jpg

Now it makes sense when MacColl and Warbeck said that The Beyond took its cue from The Shining during the commentary. Also, the finale was supposed to end at an amusement park.

Ian Jane
01-02-2018, 06:05 PM
Interesting interview, I don't buy the 'never seen a horror movie' angle either.

In other Fulci news, Mondo Macabro just announced that they're doing PERVERSION STORY!!!

https://mondomacabrodvd.blogspot.com/2018/01/happy-new-year-aka-what-we-did-last.html

"We’ve been working on getting this film in our library for some time now and have recently closed the deal. We don’t have many details to share for this one yet, but we can say that other than making its world Blu-ray premiere we are endeavouring to make sure this is the longest, most complete version yet released on home video! Because of that we can only say that this title is “coming soon”, and that it will be done when it’s done. Hopefully sometime in the middle or latter part of this new year.

One other thing we can reveal is that it will feature a brand new cover illustration by Justin Coffee, who did our previous releases NIGHT HAS A THOUSAND DESIRES and FOX WITH A VELVET TAIL. But this will be his best work yet. We can't wait to show it to you! "

Alex K.
01-02-2018, 06:28 PM
I need to revisit that title. I remember thinking that it was okay but it's been maybe 15+ years since I last saw it.

Derrick King
01-02-2018, 08:29 PM
I bought the Severin DVD of PERVERSION STORY when it was going OOP and still haven't gotten around to watching it. Guess I'll wait for the Blu-ray.

Matt H.
01-02-2018, 10:52 PM
I didn't really care for PERVERSION STORY. The only thing I can really remember is some good cinematography, including a few decent split diopter shots.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that the soundtrack is fucking awesome. I only watched the movie once, but I listen to the soundtrack a lot.

Dark Horse 77
01-03-2018, 12:24 AM
Unless one is a Fulci completist I'd advise skipping Perversion Story. I found that it didn't have any of his flair/style and was quite boring.

Alex K.
01-03-2018, 02:52 AM
I thought it was a decent Hitchcock-style thriller with a great ending. But again, it's been a long time since I've last seen it.

It's not on par with his other Giallo's.

Raf A.
01-03-2018, 03:33 AM
I've never seen Perversion Story. Is it a giallo?

Alex K.
01-03-2018, 05:19 AM
It is. Though it doesn't have much in the way of traditional stalk and slashing that you might expect.

Ian Jane
01-04-2018, 10:28 AM
This popped up on twitter - looks like Murder Rock is now coming from Scorpion rather than Code Red, possibly as part of the Doppleganger distribution deal and therefore more readily available than some titles?

Maybe Walt can chime in here with some details...

19506

Ian Jane
01-04-2018, 12:32 PM
Some images have been posted on the Scorpion FB page here (https://www.facebook.com/scorpionreleasinginfo/posts/866591003500352) showing off the new transfer for The Psychic. Looks really nice!

Bogart
01-04-2018, 02:01 PM
Unless one is a Fulci completist I'd advise skipping Perversion Story. I found that it didn't have any of his flair/style and was quite boring.

I disagree. I thought is was very decent and have been waiting for a Blu.

Dark Horse 77
01-04-2018, 03:04 PM
I disagree. I thought is was very decent and have been waiting for a Blu.

Different strokes...

Scorpion
01-04-2018, 08:47 PM
This popped up on twitter - looks like Murder Rock is now coming from Scorpion rather than Code Red, possibly as part of the Doppleganger distribution deal and therefore more readily available than some titles?

Maybe Walt can chime in here with some details...

19506


Yes, PSYCHIC, along with MURDER ROCK, GATES OF HELL will have "limited edition" at Ronin, then 3 month later Dopppleganger/Music box will have the standard one at Amazon and other places.

ropo1
01-07-2018, 08:38 AM
Different strokes...
It's hardly something to advice to skip though, different strokes or not - it's just not putting things into perspective of his whole filmography and similiar films of the period.

Compare it to a film like Sweet House of Horrors or some Franco & Ciccio farce...

For beginners, sure - put it aside and watch the 79-82 period first but after that? Personally id put it in the next cluster of 10.

We might have a different view on what a completeist is though,
to me it could simply be defined as a person watching the movies after the more generally known ones (where Perversion Story easily is included)
For example a Fulci completeist would be about going through the 1959-1966 period with few additions like Dracula in Branzia...