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John Lyons
07-15-2012, 11:49 AM
Hey everyone,
A few weeks back, I found the negative for a film called THE SINS OF ILSA. I have no idea what it is, but based on the lab paperwork, it was made in 1984 or 1985.
I've tried searching for it online and couldn't find anything very useful. Anyone know what this could be? I'm not even sure if it's exploitation.
Radley Metzger's name was all over the lab papers but I know it's not a film he made. Probably something he distributed through Audobon.

Ian Jane
07-16-2012, 09:55 AM
I'm no help at all here but am definitely curious to know what this turns out to be once you get a chance to check it out.

Just the title alone piques my interest, throw in Metzger's name, this could be pretty rad.

Alison Jane
07-16-2012, 12:06 PM
Is Dyanne Thorne in it? Maybe she could be contacted?

Ian Jane
07-16-2012, 12:14 PM
Is Dyanne Thorne in it? Maybe she could be contacted?

And if she's not, could Metzger?

Apronikoff
07-16-2012, 12:26 PM
And if she's not, could Metzger?

Might be useful to ask Steven Morowitz. He's spent a lot of time pouring over Metzger/Audubon records while he's been putting together the Paris releases, so he may have seen reference to it...

Alison Jane
07-16-2012, 12:34 PM
And if she's not, could Metzger?

Didn't know if he was still alive or not.

Even if Thorne wasn't in it, she might have been approached about it. Might know something...

Ian Jane
07-16-2012, 12:43 PM
Didn't know if he was still alive or not.

Yeah, he did the commentaries on the Distribpix stuff - I don't think you listened to those with me though.

John, I'm assuming you already asked Steve?

Ian Jane
07-16-2012, 12:47 PM
Also, is it possible that given the Ilsa in the title, this was something that Dyanne Thorne maybe had a part in but which wasn't an Ilsa movie? As in, it might have been retitled to cash in on the Ilsa movies without actually being connected to them?

IMDB says she popped up in Hellhole (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089269/) in 1985, which would be around the right time frame, but it also says Arkoff owns it, so that's probably a pretty slim chance.

Ian Jane
07-16-2012, 12:54 PM
Google found this (http://www.copyrightencyclopedia.com/the-disciplined-heart-iris-murdoch-and-her-novels-how-can-i/):

The Sins Of Ilsa
Type of Work: Motion picture or filmstripRegistration Number / Date: PA0000359230 / 1987-12-11
Date of Publication: January 1, 1985
Date of Creation: 1985
Title: The Sins of Ilsa / produced by Peter Wolfe ; directed by Stanley Paul.
Copyright Note: C.O. correspondence.
Description: 1 videocassette (VHS) (82 min.) : sd., col. ; 1/2 in.
Copyright Claimant: Idlewild Corporation
Authorship on Application: Idlewild Corporation, employer for hire.
Names: Peter Wolfe
Stanley Paul (4 documents)

Todd Jordan
07-16-2012, 12:55 PM
When you view the print, it'd be cool to see a video of it taken by phone or something. Just to see what it is.

Wasn't 1985 a bit late to cash in on Ilsa of the SS? I'll bet it has nothing to do with the Ilsa we love. I have no foundation for my opinion.

Hey maybe it's Uschi, reprising her role from Supervixens.

John Lyons
07-16-2012, 01:57 PM
It's not an ILSA film. It's an adaptation of an Iris Murdoch novel.

John Lyons
07-16-2012, 02:10 PM
When you view the print, it'd be cool to see a video of it taken by phone or something. Just to see what it is.

It's not a print, but rather the 16mm camera negatives (in the form of a/b rolls). The only way to view the assembled film is to scan it and match the rolls.

Ian Jane
06-23-2019, 04:51 PM
This was already posted in the Rialto Report thread but it needs to be here too.

https://www.therialtoreport.com/2019/06/23/sins-of-ilsa/

John, any chance of a VS release for this?

Dom D
06-23-2019, 05:34 PM
John, any chance of a VS release for this?

I'd imagine there's a couple labels scrambling already. One definite buyer here if they can do it.

Ian Jane
06-24-2019, 09:04 AM
The Rialto Report doesn't make it sound like a very good movie but I'd still love to see it, it at the very least has a seriously interesting history behind it.

Jobla
06-24-2019, 04:06 PM
I'd blind-buy a copy.

Flash
06-24-2019, 06:03 PM
Too bad the hardcore edit hasn't been located.

Lalala76
06-25-2019, 11:53 AM
So, This features footage from the 70's and Beatrice Harnois? I think I need to re-read the article