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Ian Jane
08-09-2012, 02:24 PM
This looks slick, sick and interesting:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcJTd69dMyQ

If David Cronenberg has moved away from the trademark body horror of his early pictures it looks like his son is mining that vein.

"Syd March is an employee at a clinic that sells injections of live viruses harvested from sick celebrities to obsessed fans. Biological communion - for a price. Syd also supplies illegal samples of these viruses to piracy groups, smuggling them from the clinic in his own body. When he becomes infected with the disease that kills super sensation Hannah Geist, Syd becomes a target for collectors and rabid fans. He must unravel the mystery surrounding her death before he suffers the same fate."

Variety says:

"Possibly setting a record for most images of needles piercing human skin in a motion picture, Brandon Cronenberg's syringe-tastic "Antiviral" suggests the fledgling filmmaker has some corporeal-horror preoccupations in common with famous dad David. Set in an icy near-future where celebrities' diseases are sold like crack vials, this creepy speculative satire tends to hit the same notes in its dissection of seriously unhealthy celebrity obsession, but exerts a queasy fascination regardless. Overlong Canadian production may prove too clinically distanced for gorehounds and too yucky for specialty auds, though the Cronenberg imprimatur is sure to stir theatrical interest."

As a needlephobic wimp, this could potentially mess me up.

Dig the banner that they put up for the Cannes premiere...

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Alex K.
08-09-2012, 03:55 PM
It got some pretty dismissive reviews but I look forward to it all the same. Critics have never been kind to experimental/horror films.

sukebanboy
08-09-2012, 08:57 PM
Guess he has a fetish about needles piercing flesh!!!

Hope he suceeds more than Lynch's daughter did....

Alex K.
08-09-2012, 09:01 PM
Lynch's daughter is a complete hack.

Apronikoff
08-09-2012, 09:34 PM
Lynch's daughter is a complete hack.

The only thing I know about his daughter is that she wrote the "Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" Twin Peaks tie-in books. I loved that book when it came out...but then I was 12, and it was the dirtiest thing I'd ever seen, so... :eyebrows:

Randy G
08-10-2012, 05:04 AM
Certainly seems odd that his son would mine a theme so similar to his father's early work, you'd think you'd want to get out from under the old man's shadow the way Duncan Jones and Jean Renoir were able to.

Ian Jane
08-10-2012, 09:16 AM
The only thing I know about his daughter is that she wrote the "Secret Diary of Laura Palmer" Twin Peaks tie-in books. I loved that book when it came out...but then I was 12, and it was the dirtiest thing I'd ever seen, so... :eyebrows:

Heh, I remember that book too. Good stuff.

Ian Jane
02-14-2013, 12:37 PM
So IFC picked this up, it'll hit theaters on April 12, VOD the same day, no word of DVD or Blu-ray yet.

Ian Jane
04-22-2013, 10:11 AM
So I noticed over the weekend that this is out on Blu-ray already in Canada. Meant to pick it up, got distracted, forgot. Has anyone seen it yet? Worth a blind buy?

Dom D
04-24-2013, 03:05 AM
Might be out on Blu Ray in Canada but it's only just hit the cinemas here in Oz. I tempted my girlfriend out to a screening with the promise that it was "Cronenberg's kid's movie". Which surprisingly was a major draw for her. Only realised later that she heard "Cronenberg's kids movie" and so went in with completely unrealistic expectations.

Anyway.... This was near the top of my to see list because I've always been a massive fan of Boxing Helena and there's obviously some parrallels here. Suffice to say this is nowhere near as fun as Boxing Helena was but it has that same wierd feel of someone with a fraction of the talent trying to mine the same vein of phsycosis that their father did. The influence is so embedded in the film that it's hard to look on Brandon as his own filmmaker. Characters here launch into monlogues about their bodies, or other peoples bodies, that are so David Cronenberg that you wonder if his son has any voice of his own at all.

But Antiviral definitely doesn't have the quality of a David Cronenberg film. It has a wierd student film feel to it. You know when you're watching student films and everything just feels stagey. The sets look like sets, actors look like they're acting, the ideas feel obvious and get rammed down your throat.

Certainly it's ugly as hell. Cronenberg decided on an all white aesthetic, it contributes to the clinical atmos I guess. I get the thinking but watching a film set in white rooms full of white furniture and white light gets pretty wearying after a while. The lack of subtlety here with the look is kind of indicative of the film as a whole.

It's certainly a distasteful experience which is right for body horror but there's no feeling of drama at all. I'm moderately sickened by it but overall much more bored.

Alex K.
04-24-2013, 03:16 AM
Ouch. I'm going to try to check it out still. But what you say brings to mind the thought that: has there ever been a kind a cinematic dynasty in which the offspring of a famous filmmaker have gone on to be successful and have a unique voice of their own? I can only think of Sophia Coppola (and that's debatable seeing as I thought Lost in Translation was overrated) and to a far lesser extent Lamberto Bava.

Dom D
04-24-2013, 03:32 AM
Hey is there any example of that in the arts at all? I've been racking my brains trying to come up with some significant examples but I'm struggling. There was the Bronte sisters and... um... There's got to be plenty I suppose but this aint horse breeding. Talent is not genetic.

Alex K.
04-24-2013, 03:40 AM
Maybe Asia Argento? Decent actress but the two films she made were very different from her father's and Heart Is Deceitful Above All Things was depressingly good. Scarlet Diva was kinda' pretentious. She should direct more.

And yeah, good point, I really cannot think of any sons of daughters of famous artists who have made exceptional art.

Ian Jane
04-24-2013, 08:50 AM
Axel Braun makes very different porno movies than Lasse Braun did. ;)

Dom, thanks for your thoughts on the movie. Like I said, I had this in my hand once or twice over the weekend, it's all over the place in Canada, in the Walmarts even. I'll probably just wait for it to go on sale or something. Like Alex, I'm still curious about it, even if it does sound completely derivitive.

Apronikoff
04-24-2013, 02:16 PM
Hey is there any example of that in the arts at all? I've been racking my brains trying to come up with some significant examples but I'm struggling. There was the Bronte sisters and... um... There's got to be plenty I suppose but this aint horse breeding. Talent is not genetic.

Here's a few that come to mind:

1) Well, it may be too soon to say for sure, but on the basis of Moon I'd say that Duncan Jones is a talented filmmaker, which is of course a whole different medium than his father (David Bowie)

2) Joe Hill (son of Stephen King) has stayed in horror fiction, but he's building quite a name for himself, and his work (at least what I've read) doesn't feel anything like his fathers...

3) A big one: Pierre-Auguste Renoir, one of the leading impressionist painters, and his son Jean Renoir

Roderick
04-24-2013, 04:13 PM
Sofia Coppola has had a fair degree of critical success as a director.

Alex K.
04-25-2013, 08:18 PM
I finished watching it last night and it was okay. Neither bad nor great. A little student film-ish at times but overall it was an okay first effort. The whole thing feels like it was born from a conversation between father and son:

"Hey dad, people really want you to make one more body horror film before you retire or anything happens to you."

"Ehhhhhhhhhh, maybe. But you do one."

"Really?"

"Yeah, I believe in you. You can do it. I gotta' teach Robert Pattinson how to act now."

I like to think it happened like that. It's nothing like Boxing Helena in that it's actually decent and not laughably bad.

Ian Jane
05-15-2013, 09:00 AM
Yeah, I'm with Alex and Don, it's VERY derivitive of his father's early films, but I did like it. I thought it really had a great concept behind it and that the performances were decent. Some decent icky effects and some good tensions as the ending approached. I could actually see myself watching this again. The more I think on it the more I like the story. Execution wise, Brandon's got talent, but as you guys have said, he needs to stretch his wings a bit and maybe work a little harder to find his own voice/style.

As an interesting aside, when they went into the porn theater to meet with Levine I thought to myself 'Self, that place looks familiar.' Turns out it was Show World in Hamilton. As they're walking towards it you can see Cheapies Records very quickly in the background and then they turn inside. I turned on the commentary and they confirm it. I used to live in Hamilton and when I took the bus to work, I'd transfer right in front of that place. A few times when it was raining really hard, I'd go inside and wait for the bus. The place was soooo sleazy. Walls of video monitors with all sorts of porn (not just straight and gay but everything in between) cranked up, jack off booths in the back, a front area full of accessories and a basement with a few theaters that they show in the movie (when he goes past the turnstile). I was in Hamilton last month and it's shuttered now.

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Ian Jane
05-29-2013, 10:11 AM
MPI are giving it a domestic Blu-ray release 8/6/13. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CQRNKKM/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00CQRNKKM&linkCode=as2&tag=cognitrespon-20)

No word if it'll carry over all of the extras from the Canadian eOne release (there were a lot of them).

Ian Jane
06-07-2013, 01:23 PM
US Blu-ray cover art.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51kglRLF3PL.jpg