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Ian Jane
09-05-2012, 10:07 AM
From Brooklyn Vegan (http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2012/09/new_charles_man.html) by way of the LA Times:

Manuel Vasquez defends the unusual product he's selling. But not everyone's buying it. Vasquez is the 26-year-old co-owner of [LA's Beauty Is Pain Boutique (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Beauty-Is-Pain-Boutique/125471747510704)] who produces records in his spare time. His latest release features music written and performed by convicted mass murderer Charles Manson.

"I've gotten some hate mail from it. There are people not appreciating the release of music by him," he said. "People say they don't understand why I'd want to associate myself with this or why I would be interested in releasing it."

Even his parents tried to talk him out of pressing and selling the 40-minute vinyl album.

"They're in their mid-50s and they grew up with a fear of Charles Manson," Vasquez acknowledged. "They don't want to have anything to do with him. They asked why I was doing it and did I know what I was getting into -- did I fully understand the extent of what it means?"....

...."I usually tell people that the perspective they have of Manson is what he was convicted for in 1969, not for what he became in prison," Vasquez said. "He is somebody who is obsessed with ecology and saving the earth, the environment and animals. Life is his obsession, not death."

The album's title, a vulgarity that means wasting time, reflects Manson's own description of his guitar playing that was recorded in the 1980s in a room above the prison chapel at California Medical Facility in Vacaville. Manson later gave the tape recording to a friend who eventually passed it on to a third person. After years of "badgering" that person for it, Vasquez obtained the tape last year.
With Manson's encouragement, he said, he set about creating an album.

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Alex K.
09-05-2012, 10:31 AM
Manson's philosophy is all over the place, so that's some pretty obvious hot air on his part. That said I do like some of Manson's music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2oZWpqtNi4

Ian Jane
09-05-2012, 10:35 AM
I always dug the song Garbage Dump.

Todd Jordan
09-05-2012, 11:18 AM
I ain't a supporter. If fuckwit Manson was serious about wanting people to hear his music, what's wrong with a fake name and let the muisic stand on its own? Makes me feel a bit ill to be honest.

Mark Tolch
09-05-2012, 11:22 AM
My consensus.....Manson wants more people to listen to him, whether it's him ranting or singing. The other dude wants to put out an album because especially in this day and age of e-commerce, he'll probably make a tidy bit of cash off of it. I think that Manson was interesting, but to say that this should be released because of the earth and ecology and blah blah blah, whatever. Call it what it is, a cash grab. Recorded on cassette 20 some odd years ago in jail, it's hardly gonna be a quality product.

paul h.
09-05-2012, 11:38 AM
http://youtu.be/VCDnR6Px-co

paul h.
09-05-2012, 11:43 AM
My consensus.....Manson wants more people to listen to him, whether it's him ranting or singing. The other dude wants to put out an album because especially in this day and age of e-commerce, he'll probably make a tidy bit of cash off of it. I think that Manson was interesting, but to say that this should be released because of the earth and ecology and blah blah blah, whatever. Call it what it is, a cash grab. Recorded on cassette 20 some odd years ago in jail, it's hardly gonna be a quality product.

It may not even be a recording of Manson. Lots of people write him letters, and often he'll get another inmate to write back, pretending to be him.

I'm sure my friend , who actually has some John Wayne Gacy artifacts (and Evangelist Robert Tilton artifacts), will pick this up. I'll wind up hearing it whether I want to or not.

Ian Jane
09-05-2012, 11:44 AM
My consensus.....Manson wants more people to listen to him, whether it's him ranting or singing. The other dude wants to put out an album because especially in this day and age of e-commerce, he'll probably make a tidy bit of cash off of it. I think that Manson was interesting, but to say that this should be released because of the earth and ecology and blah blah blah, whatever. Call it what it is, a cash grab. Recorded on cassette 20 some odd years ago in jail, it's hardly gonna be a quality product.

I think you more or less just hit the nail on the head. Anything for a buck! Manson's obviously on his own planet and completely off kilter - the dude behind the label wants to make money off of controversy (and probably will).

Mark Tolch
09-05-2012, 11:49 AM
Remember what a hot item that LIE tape was? And that was pre-internet, for the most part.

Ian Jane
09-05-2012, 11:57 AM
Yep. I had it. It was a copy though, not an original. I remember seeing it for sale in a lot of indy record stores in the 90s though.

Robert W
09-05-2012, 01:10 PM
I ain't a supporter. If fuckwit Manson was serious about wanting people to hear his music, what's wrong with a fake name and let the muisic stand on its own? Makes me feel a bit ill to be honest.

Well he's in prison for starters and had his guitar confiscated after news of the recording got out.

Mark Tolch
09-05-2012, 01:28 PM
Well he's in prison for starters and had his guitar confiscated after news of the recording got out.

So what Todd is saying makes even more sense, then.

Alex K.
09-05-2012, 03:16 PM
I always dug the song Garbage Dump.

Look at Your Game Girl is pretty good too:

http://youtu.be/Ae_0j3byq4w

Todd Jordan
09-05-2012, 07:03 PM
So what Todd is saying makes even more sense, then.

Unpossible. I never make sense.

paul h.
09-06-2012, 09:45 PM
Thanks to this thread, now I really want to get "the Family Jams" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Family_Jams_%28Manson_Family_album%29) 2xCD set, which out of print and going for outrageous coin. Anybody gots?

Roderick
11-22-2013, 07:00 PM
New extensive interview via Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/charles-manson-today-the-final-confessions-of-a-psychopath-20131121

"I'd like to have some real pussy. I'd like to have a little something to smoke. I'd like a good electric guitar. I'd like a good place to fart and shit."

Paul Casey
11-22-2013, 07:06 PM
New extensive interview via Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/charles-manson-today-the-final-confessions-of-a-psychopath-20131121

"I'd like to have some real pussy. I'd like to have a little something to smoke. I'd like a good electric guitar. I'd like a good place to fart and shit."

Can't blame him for those.

Roderick
11-22-2013, 07:07 PM
I guess I'm livin' the dream! W00t!