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Thread: The Irishman (Martin Scorsese, Robert Deniro, Joe Pesci, Harvey Keitel)

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    This movie could be nothing but talking for 3 hours and I'm sold.

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    Hope he can dig deep and pull out something really great but even if not it will probably be compulsively watchable.

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    Good teaser trailer. I don't expect it to be perfect but I'm sure it's interesting nevertheless
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    Saw this at the Hollywood Theater in Portland. It didn't work for me at all really. I'm a little mystified by all the glowing reviews. I was completely underwhelmed. Some decent things about it though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicGandil View Post
    Saw this at the Hollywood Theater in Portland. It didn't work for me at all really. I'm a little mystified by all the glowing reviews. I was completely underwhelmed. Some decent things about it though.
    Sounds like I was a little more of a fan, but this one needed some serious editing. There's probably a great 150 minute movie in here, but it seemed like paint by numbers Scorcese. As much as The Departed, Gangs of New York and Wolf of Wall Street seemed less effective to me than Goodfellas or Mean Streets, I can acknowledge that Scorcese was at least trying to do something a little different. I know Once Upon A Time In America has a lot of fans, I've never been into it, and this film had a lot of similarities.

    Side note; the de-aging thing totally fucked with me the whole time. Not because the technology wasn't impressive, but because you still had old man DeNiro/Pesci/Pacino acting inside young man's facade. Overall, it was good to see in the theatre without the distractions of dogs fighting and needing to go outside and people asking me what the hell is going on in the first five minutes and every five minutes after, but I really hope this isn't Scorcese's swan song.

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    I'm sort of in agreement with Mark here. The film needed some serious editing. The last 30 or so minutes were a bit of a chore to sit through.

    Overall I felt it had more good then bad though, even if it was kind of a Scorsese greatest hits of sorts, as it really offered nothing new except the de-aging effects which I felt were kind of weird for the first half hour or so until I got used to them. And as mentioned above, they always felt a bit off as I always had the image of how they really looked back then in my mind. (Also, there were a couple of scenes with some dodgy CGI outside of the de-aging).

    I also kept wondering how the film would have been if they just had chosen different actors, who were in the appropriate ages, instead of going down this nostalgia route. But then again, what this film really has going for it is the nostaliga, so that would probably have made it worse.

    Nostalgia is probably also how this have gotten such extreme praise and hype by critics. Or maybe these new millenials who do the reviewing nowadays just have never seen this type of gangster story before, which all of us old farts have done time and time again.

    But as I said, more good then bad, and it was 3+ hours worth spending, even if I find it highly unlikey I will ever bother with this again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Tolch View Post
    Side note; the de-aging thing totally fucked with me the whole time. Not because the technology wasn't impressive, but because you still had old man DeNiro/Pesci/Pacino acting inside young man's facade.
    100%. Couldn't agree more.

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    It's good but a little over-long. I'd be interested in a fan-edit. Either that or watch it in bursts. It doesn't top Casino and honestly I don't think anything by Marty will. But it's a great mob film.

    My only complaint regarding the de-aging is that I thought it was fine but DeNiro moves like an old man. You really notice it during the scene where he beats the shit out of the store owner that shoved his daughter. Once you notice it it's impossible to not see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex K. View Post
    It's good but a little over-long. I'd be interested in a fan-edit. Either that or watch it in bursts. It doesn't top Casino and honestly I don't think anything by Marty will. But it's a great mob film.

    My only complaint regarding the de-aging is that I thought it was fine but DeNiro moves like an old man. You really notice it during the scene where he beats the shit out of the store owner that shoved his daughter. Once you notice it it's impossible to not see it.
    On Netflix, they have a Conversations With The Irishmen or something like that...round table with Marty, Pacino, Pesci and DeNiro, and they bring that up. But that got to me as well, hence my comments about old men in young mens facades

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