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    It's a crowd of complex characters for sure. Nobody is evil nor good, just somewhere on a greyscale like real human beings. David Simon is ever the sociologist, wanting to capture the era and people, warts and all, without pointing fingers and serving up easy answers. There is a factory of nostalgia at play here, of course, certainly in the brilliant recreation of the millieu and attention to detail in wardrobe and scenography, but Simon and Pelecanos obviously go a lot deeper than that. It's neither a simple condemnation of sex work, nor a glorification of pornography as female liberation (which, on the whole it's not; wasn't then isn't now). Like The Wire, The Deuce is supremely nuanced television fiction, grounded in marxist societal analysis. Reading interviews with David Simon, who doesn't like porn at all, makes it perfectly clear he's mostly interested in how sex work and the porn industry in a way is the ultimate vulgar capitalist marketplace. His primary interest is delving into the relation between labour and capital. I'm delighted to once again see this kind of mature storytelling in American television, and can't wait to see where it goes past the first season.
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    Also, James Franco has really stood out in recent years as one of the most interesting actors of his generation. He's a good looking guy, and could easily fall into the Hollywood hunk cycle of making the lightest possible films for easy money. Instead he seems to constantly challenge himself and picking interesting roles and strange projects, like Interior: Leather Bar for instance.
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    Yeah, I like Franco a lot. Smart guy, and interested in doing more thought-provoking work, but not afraid to do goofy stoner shit, either.

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    This has already been renewed for a second season.

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    Yet another solid episode, last nights DOA scene and finale where Candy is saluted, had me rolling.
    Just realized there are only 8 eps in Season 1, this is over before Halloween hits.

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    Yeah, I was waiting for the keel over on the staircase, hahaha, surprise.

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    Bit telegraphed there for sure, and the series does flirt with cliches here and here,
    but I feel it's more inherent to the subject matter than the writers mis stepping.

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    It's been a fucking great year for telly again but even so this was easily the best thing on. There's not a huge amount to it, just a genuinely great group of characters.

    The only disappointment was the sudden ending. I sat down last night looking forward to a new episode and was incredibly- and, let's face it, pathetically- disappointed to find it was done. I don't remember anything season-finaleesque about the last episode. Was that really it? I was just seriously getting into it. To top off the disappointment the girlfriend tells me the next series picks up a few years down the line. Well, fuck, I guess they know what they are doing but I was into those story lines. I would happily keep following those for a while yet before we reboot.

    Actually I said that was the only disappointment but the other was that those great shots of 42nd Street with the movie billboards were rarely to be seen after the pilot. I guess they were hard on the budget. Fucking loved that recreation though and was looking forward to seeing the different titles on the billboards each week. Someone was obviously a euro trash fan.

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    Yeah, also surprised to find this was done. I really enjoyed it, can’t wait for it to return.

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