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    It's a crowd of complex characters for sure. Nobody is evil nor good, just somewhere on a greyscale like real human beings. David Simon is ever the sociologist, wanting to capture the era and people, warts and all, without pointing fingers and serving up easy answers. There is a factory of nostalgia at play here, of course, certainly in the brilliant recreation of the millieu and attention to detail in wardrobe and scenography, but Simon and Pelecanos obviously go a lot deeper than that. It's neither a simple condemnation of sex work, nor a glorification of pornography as female liberation (which, on the whole it's not; wasn't then isn't now). Like The Wire, The Deuce is supremely nuanced television fiction, grounded in marxist societal analysis. Reading interviews with David Simon, who doesn't like porn at all, makes it perfectly clear he's mostly interested in how sex work and the porn industry in a way is the ultimate vulgar capitalist marketplace. His primary interest is delving into the relation between labour and capital. I'm delighted to once again see this kind of mature storytelling in American television, and can't wait to see where it goes past the first season.
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    Also, James Franco has really stood out in recent years as one of the most interesting actors of his generation. He's a good looking guy, and could easily fall into the Hollywood hunk cycle of making the lightest possible films for easy money. Instead he seems to constantly challenge himself and picking interesting roles and strange projects, like Interior: Leather Bar for instance.
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    Yeah, I like Franco a lot. Smart guy, and interested in doing more thought-provoking work, but not afraid to do goofy stoner shit, either.

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    This has already been renewed for a second season.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...at-hbo-1041126
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    Yet another solid episode, last nights DOA scene and finale where Candy is saluted, had me rolling.
    Just realized there are only 8 eps in Season 1, this is over before Halloween hits.

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    Yeah, I was waiting for the keel over on the staircase, hahaha, surprise.

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    Bit telegraphed there for sure, and the series does flirt with cliches here and here,
    but I feel it's more inherent to the subject matter than the writers mis stepping.

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    It's been a fucking great year for telly again but even so this was easily the best thing on. There's not a huge amount to it, just a genuinely great group of characters.

    The only disappointment was the sudden ending. I sat down last night looking forward to a new episode and was incredibly- and, let's face it, pathetically- disappointed to find it was done. I don't remember anything season-finaleesque about the last episode. Was that really it? I was just seriously getting into it. To top off the disappointment the girlfriend tells me the next series picks up a few years down the line. Well, fuck, I guess they know what they are doing but I was into those story lines. I would happily keep following those for a while yet before we reboot.

    Actually I said that was the only disappointment but the other was that those great shots of 42nd Street with the movie billboards were rarely to be seen after the pilot. I guess they were hard on the budget. Fucking loved that recreation though and was looking forward to seeing the different titles on the billboards each week. Someone was obviously a euro trash fan.

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    Yeah, also surprised to find this was done. I really enjoyed it, can’t wait for it to return.

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    Press release for S1 Blu-ray release:

    “Captivating Characters… Fantastic Turns by Maggie Gyllenhaal and James Franco” -Variety

    The Deuce: The Complete First Season

    Available for Digital Download November 27, 2017;
    On Blu-ray™ and DVD February 13, 2018

    New York, N.Y., November 17, 2017 – Catch up on the show that The Wall Street Journal calls “a spectacularly appealing enterprise,” when The Deuce is available for Digital Download on November 27, 2017 and on Blu-RayTM and DVD February 13, 2018. Set during the early 1970s in New York City's Times Square, The Deuce, starring James Franco and Maggie Gyllenhaal, gives viewers an up-close look at the gritty world of sex and crime, as the porn industry begins its climb to legitimacy, cultural permanence, and billion-dollar profitability.

    This eight-episode series, which has a 93% Certified Fresh rating from Rotten Tomatoes, is “Vibrant…relentlessly interesting.” (The New York Times). The DVD and Blu-RayTM include exciting bonus content including exclusive audio commentaries from the cast and crew, including James Franco (Oscar® nominee for 127 Hours), Maggie Gyllenhaal (Oscar® nominee for Crazy Heart), and David Simon (The Wire, Treme, Show Me a Hero), cast interviews on this unique period in history, and more. The Blu-rayTM and DVD release also include a free Digital Download copy.

    Digital Download, Blu-ray™ & DVD Bonus Features Include:
    -The Deuce in Focus- Delve inside The Deuce with Michelle MacLaren, James Franco and Roxann Dawson as they talk about bringing the show to life.
    -The Wild West: New York in the Early '70s- Head back in time in this featurette that focuses on the frontier of the pornography business--New York City in the early 1970s--with the cast and crew of The Deuce. Creators David Simon and George Pelecanos plus James Franco and his co-stars open up about this unique period in NYC history as porn moved from the street to the mainstream screen.

    Blu-ray™ & DVD Exclusive Bonus Features Include:
    -Audio Commentaries- Commentaries on Episode 1 and Episode 8 with cast and crew including David Simon (Co-Creator/Executive Producer), George Pelecanos (Co-Creator/Executive Producer), Nina Kostroff Noble (Executive Producer), Michele MacLaren (Director), Maggie Gyllenhaal (Actor/Producer) and James Franco (Actor/Executive Producer).

    Boasting a fine ensemble cast and executive produced by David Simon, George Pelecanos, Nina K. Noble and James Franco, The Deuce chronicles the rise of the porn industry that began in New York City in 1971-72, driven by the gradual legalization of porn and a politically motivated effort to "clean up" Times Square. Seizing the chance to cash in on the nascent porn business are a vivid assortment of characters, including: Vincent Martino (James Franco), a bartender with vision and connections; Frankie Martino (Franco again), Vincent's identical twin, a dangerously freewheeling counterpart to his entrepreneurial brother; Candy (Maggie Gyllenhaal), a self-made, on-the-street sex worker eying a new career in porn filmmaking; pimps C.C. (Gary Carr) and Larry Brown (Gbenga Akinnagbe); young prostitutes Darlene (Dominique Fishback) and Lori (Emily Meade); midtown cop Chris Alston (Lawrence Gilliard, Jr.); newspaper reporter Sandra Washington (Natalie Paul); mob capo Rudy Pipilo (Michael Rispoli); disillusioned college student Abby Parker (Margarita Levieva); and others.

    The Deuce: The Complete First Season
    Blu-ray™, DVD & Digital Download
    Digital Download: November 27, 2017
    Blu-ray™ & DVD: February 13, 2018
    Rating: TV-MA
    Runtime: Approx. 508 minutes

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