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    Quote Originally Posted by chriszilla View Post
    I'm far from being a big Joe Besser fan, but saying it was HIM that sucked the life out of the Stooges, and failing to acknowledge Moe and Larry's ages, the creative and financial apathy on the part of Columbia, the recycled gags, etc. etc. is clearly not seeing the whole picture. As much as I love Shemp, it's hard not to notice the steep decline in the quality of the shorts toward the end of his tenure. They had a hell of a run, lasting DECADES, and all things must come to an end.

    And even though I'm sure plenty of people would agree with you on your Curly Joe/KISS take, I disagree. The choices for the performer are to carry on, or hang it up. An entire generation became aware of the Stooges (and acquired a knowledge and passion for the classic material) based on seeing the latter-day Stooges on TV or at the movies. Likewise, an entire generation would have never gotten to experience a KISS concert had Paul and Gene hung it up in 2000 (and I realize you can make a compelling case that maybe they should have!). More folks getting a chance to experience something is a good thing, not a bad one. And it only increases the awareness and appreciation of the "classic" era. Obviously we're all free to sit out the later incarnation of an entertainer's career if it isn't to our liking. I know I certainly have with many a musician, actor or director. But if they want to continue to perform, and there's people willing to support them, more power to 'em...
    Yikes. I did acknowledge that:

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    As much as I like Shemp they already started showing their age by that time he re-joined and scripts and gags were already starting to get recycled. It can get a little tedious if you watched a bunch of them in a row. Obviously everyone's mileage may vary.
    The rest is my opinion. Besser and DeRita stink. I don't care that it kept them viable as a brand. The cartoons stink too. That modern movie may have turned some kids onto the Stooges but that in itself doesn't give it worth.
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    I like Joe Besser. The Stooges may not have been his best vehicle. Not trying to win anyone over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    The rest is my opinion. Besser and DeRita stink. I don't care that it kept them viable as a brand. The cartoons stink too. That modern movie may have turned some kids onto the Stooges but that in itself doesn't give it worth.
    For the record, I was not referring to the modern day movie, as I have not seen it. I was referring to the 1960's, when they experienced a resurgence in popularity. I know people who were kids in that era who became fans of the Stooges during the Curly Joe years, which in turn led to them becoming huge fans of Curly, Shemp, and the "classic era" Stooges. Not to mention other classic comedy teams, as well.

    My bad for failing to acknowledge your other comment about the latter Shemp years. I was following a train of thought while I was replying, and kinda strayed a bit!

    Obviously, all of this stuff is just our opinions. I just reject the notion that because I myself may no longer recognize the merit in an artist's work, they should "just do us all a favor" and hang it up, so we don't have to be subjected to (what we feel is) sub-par work. The paying audience, and the desire of the performer to continue, can make that decision on their own. Hopefully that makes sense...

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    As a kid I always found the Joe Besser works to be an interesting rarity whenever they popped up. Now I like them less for being so kid friendly, much like the features that came afterwards, and the cartoons and comics. There's a manic randiness to the Curly and Shemp shorts that is missing from the later works that leaves it feeling neutered. I like my Stooges angry and horny.
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    Thank you eveyone. After all these years I now get the joke in Spinal Tap.

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    I liked the ones with Iggy.

    Actually, as a kid I loved them. Now, not so much. Guess I watched them too many times and they got stale.
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